Posted on 03/12/2010 11:19:03 AM PST by Jim Robinson
If conservatives really and truly want most of the nation's children to have a thoroughly Christian based education grounded in the principles of our Founding Fathers then we must move toward complete privatization of K-12 schooling.
Ok...Conservatives win this one. The curriculum and policies of the government schools are still overwhelmingly secular in their worldview. The teachers are overwhelmingly trained in atheistic and secular colleges of education. Winning this is like aiming a water pistol at a raging secular forest fire. Big Deal! ( sigh!)
From the very first minute that government schools opened in the mid-1800s, the Christian worldview had to be watered down so as to be acceptable to the many Christian denominations in the various communities. Right there, one the very first day, children were fed a lukewarm Christianity. The Utopian progressives from the 1800s onward have continually pushed for more and more secularization. They won a **long** time ago!
By the 1960s when I attended high school, yes, there was the Lord's Prayer and one scripture verse in the morning but for the rest of the day it was PURE secularism!
If we want a strong nation that is strong in its Christian faith, we must shut down the government schools.
If we really wish to win the culture war conservatives MUST get their kids out of the government schools and work to shut these indoctrination camps down! Permanently padlock these temples of atheism.
Well, that’s fine, conservatives should get their children out of public school, but in the meantime, get the leftist anti-America brainwashing propaganda out too! Why let the liberals brainwash the remaining children.
Yeah. Before Blackstone. Cumberland, Hobbes**, etc.
BTW, here’s a wonderful repository of freebies.
**Not the cartoon with the stuffed tiger. :P
I believe the fundamental law of nature is “survival of the fittest” which I hope rules out the democrats.
B/S. We need to teach American children American history.
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Jim,
I think you and I agree that our nation’s children must be taught the Christian and founding principles of this nation. It is absolutely and utterly **URGENT** and vital that children be properly educated.
In fact, I feel so strongly about this that I personally feel that the government education of our nation’s children is our nation’s **most** serious threat. The abominable government education that children are receiving in our nation’s indoctrination camps will **destroy** this nation. I **seriously** mean it!
I am distressed that other conservatives can’t see how important it is that we shut down and permanently padlock every government school indoctrination camp in this nation.
I am distressed that other conservatives can not see how important it is that every child in this nation have access to a private and conservative K-12 education that upholds and teaches the founding principles of this nation.
What a fantastic looking site! I will definitely be spending some time this weekend checking that out.
I’m at work right now; in fact I better get back to it.
Thank you!
Yeah, well, that’s a great idea but it ain’t gonna happen.
Yes, we should fight them everywhere, including the textbook battles raging at the various school boards.
But...We must not lose sight of the mark. Every child should have access to a Christian and conservative private education that isn't watered down or lukewarm. The only way to avoid lukewarm and watered down is in a private school.
The best defense against Islam and atheistic Marxism is to have our nation's children thoroughly rooted in their Judeo-Christian faith (that is fully integrated into **every** subject) and our nation's founding principles. That can **only ** happen in a private setting.
The 1st amendment as it clearly reads:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
As it was clearly practiced and intended by the founders was meant to keep the Federal government out of the Establishment of the religion business for the propose of PROTECTING the rights of the people and their States to establish their own religions, which were different.
It should therefore be said that the State of Texas as with any other state who’s people choose to empower the same as such, have the right to do much more then this and actually establish a State religion.
Even go so far as to require the citizens of such state to adhere to it. Again ONLY if the States constitution permits such power. The 1st amendment exist quite explicitly to protect this right form being threaten by the Federal Government. (If you don’t happen to like it, you are always free to leave such a state, the same 1st amendment by forbidding the Federal usurpation protects that right too by allowing for their to be other states to choose from.)
It is perhaps the ultimate irony that the same Federal government has abused the same amendment thou incorporation to rob our States of that right in even the most light of forms to the effect as to force upon us atheism.
This is perhaps particularly appropriate for God fearing Texas, who’s constitution actually forbids anyone from holding any major office of trust under the state if they are an atheist, and don’t acknowledge the existents of a higher power. (A reasonable and prudent restriction if you ask me, as how can you trust a man with the ultimate power who fears not divine consequences to his actions?)
There is a reason atheist have committed the worst atrocity in human history, and a large part of that reason comes from the fact that once they are in unchecked power they fear consequences. Where as a God fearing man fears the consequences of God in the afterlife.
For this reason I would not want an atheist in such a position of power.
Large and intractable institutions can lose their legitimacy seemingly overnight.
Examples: The American Revolution, the Catholic Church and Martin Luther, the Jim Crow and the Civil Rights movement.
Ideas are the most powerful things in the world. Everything starts with an idea. That we exist at all began with an idea in the mind of God.
( Please see my tag line. Am I an optimist or what?) :-)
Yep. They went from the Conquistadors to corrupt Mexican regimes. Without those white men they would never have had economic and political freedom.
Religion was once deemed to be a function of the public school system. The Northwest Ordinance, in Article III that Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged…
We are not talking about establishing a Theocracy like Iran, were just saying historically our country used to put it’s faith in God and not Earth worship - which is a religion too.. So is atheism. The Bible was taught in schools for 200 years. We have too many religions in America today to do this now, but I’d rather the kids know that their rights as individuals come from God and not from Obama, Pelosi, or Al Gore.
I agree with you. We must fight PC correctness and atheistic secularism on every front. This includes the school boards, as needed.
But...Let's not forget, though, that government schools are our nation's **most** serious threat. Really! I seriously mean it. They are temples of atheism. They teach children to think godlessly every minute of every day. And..They are thoroughly and completely under the control of the Marxists.
One or two more generations educated in these government indoctrination camps and our nation is **doomed**!
The problem is **urgent**! The threat to our freedom is urgent. Yet...I sense from the posts here on Free Republic that few conservatives understand that threat from the government schools even exists!
We must get children out of the government schools and into educational settings where their Christian values can be thoroughly integrated with their family's values and with every course taught. These values, along with the principles of our founding fathers, will save our nation.
The problem with government schools ( even from their beginning in the mid-1800s) is that they must offer up a lukewarm pap if it is to be accepted by the majority of the people. Well?...We know what Christ said about being lukewarm!
Only in private settings ( homeschool, one room school houses, mini-schools, tutoring centers, homeschool co-ops) can a child really receive thorough instruction in the faith of their fathers and have it fully integrated into every policy and every course. Only in a private setting can it be done without compromise!
While our federal constitution and many state constitutions allow for faith based government state schools, these schools are a freedom of conscience nightmare! The very fact that schools are **government** means that the government can and **does** threaten its citizens to pay for a non-neutral cultural, religious, and political agenda that they may find utterly repugnant.
Also..If my brand of Christian worldview can be imposed on my neighbor's child, that government also has the power to impose my neighbor's worldview on my family and use the threat of police force to make me pay for it! What we have is an eternal tug of war between politically warring groups of citizens. The most politically powerful gets to oppress his neighbor.
The best solution is to begin the process of privatizing K-12 education. Voucher, tax credits, and charters could help build the private infrastructure, but the best course is to have parents assume the full responsibility of educating their children and having charity pick up the tab for the poor.
If our Founding Fathers could have seen the oppression that government schools cause the people ( the tax burden and freedom of conscience abuses), they would have put in the First Amendment and their state constitutions that there must be complete separation of school and state.
Never mind me, I’m just going to pull up a chair and grin for a while.
[God Blessed Texas, no?]
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