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Five Myths about Same Sex Marriage
Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2010 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 03/09/2010 12:18:39 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: ketsu
That's why I'm conservative...

ROFLMAO

No, you are most assuredly NOT conservative. Whoever told you that (probably a public school teacher) was lying.

141 posted on 03/09/2010 2:52:28 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: ketsu; wagglebee; xzins; BykrBayb; metmom; liberalism is suicide; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; ...
The issue is not marriage. The issue is making the issue about marriage. The problem is not marriage, it's marriage's abject failure as an institution.

Looks like I was not IBTZ. :-(

142 posted on 03/09/2010 2:55:16 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

I was here and didn’t even know they GOT the ZOT. LOL


143 posted on 03/09/2010 2:58:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: P-Marlowe
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144 posted on 03/09/2010 2:59:17 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: P-Marlowe

Thanks for checking and notifying us.


145 posted on 03/09/2010 3:01:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ketsu

And no they won’t molest your children.


What exactly are you saying? That no homosexuals are child molesters?


146 posted on 03/09/2010 3:04:34 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: DJ MacWoW; ketsu; wagglebee; xzins; BykrBayb; metmom; liberalism is suicide; little jeremiah
I was here and didn’t even know they GOT the ZOT. LOL

Looks like he appealed his Zot and got unzotted.

That being said, I suspect we won't be hearing anymore of this homosexual agenda nonsense from him anymore.

147 posted on 03/09/2010 3:06:10 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: ketsu

The old rules don’t work anymore.


You’re pretty good at flinging generalizations (sort of like how monkeys fling poop at the zoo) without a scrap of detail.

1. What “old” rules don’t work any more? Be specific.

2. For the “old” rules that you claim don’t work, what substitute “new” rules do you propose?

Let’s get some specifics instead of blanket wild opinions.


148 posted on 03/09/2010 3:07:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: P-Marlowe

I didn’t do anything. My FR life flashed before my eyes though.


149 posted on 03/09/2010 3:10:59 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

Free republic is a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty conservative site. We do not support the homosexual agenda here and THAT is not debatable. Those who don’t like it can take a fricken hike.


150 posted on 03/09/2010 3:11:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: ketsu

There’s very little work on constructing low level social structures that maintain and perpetuate strong families and stable society.


And just “who” or “what” do you propose do this work on “contstructing” low level social structures?

What does the gobbledy gook really mean?

I’d say “low level social structures” would be families; no work needs doing to figure out what they are! Mom, Dad, kids, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins...


151 posted on 03/09/2010 3:11:30 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: ketsu; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; xzins; BykrBayb; metmom; liberalism is suicide; little jeremiah
I didn’t do anything. My FR life flashed before my eyes though.

Are you done promoting the homosexual agenda on Free Republic?

You are welcome to your opinion, but I have found that your particular opinion on this subject is one that is not particularly welcome on this forum.

So I can say NOW that I am IBTZ. :-)

152 posted on 03/09/2010 3:15:17 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Inquiring minds would like to know what you are doing to practice what you preach. I like what you said.
I owe you a longer response, but my last reply got eaten. I do integration classes with recent immigrants, used to volunteer at a homeless shelter and take part in social events that try to cut a broad swath across society. I'm not perfect by any means but I try be a contributing member of a real civil society.
153 posted on 03/09/2010 3:15:32 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Free republic is a pro-God, pro-Life, pro-family, pro-Liberty conservative site. We do not support the homosexual agenda here and THAT is not debatable. Those who don’t like it can take a fricken hike.
Fair enough, I feel like my point was misunderstood, but I've ignited enough of a firestorm that it's better to drop it.
154 posted on 03/09/2010 3:17:57 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

Admin Mod banned your account but I gave you a temporary reprieve due to your longevity here. But you have now been warned and there will be no further reprieves. You can use your free speech rights to promote the homosexual agenda elsewhere if that is your intention.


155 posted on 03/09/2010 3:19:27 PM PST by Jim Robinson (JUST VOTE THEM OUT! teapartyexpress.org)
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To: little jeremiah
I’d say “low level social structures” would be families; no work needs doing to figure out what they are! Mom, Dad, kids, grandparents, uncles, aunts, cousins...
Exactly, but how do you have an extended family to lean on when your brothers live in seattle, you live in the midwest and your parents live in the northeast? America's economy has, for the most part, moved to the cities and the economic opportunity can move from location to location quickly. How do you have an extended family in that context?
156 posted on 03/09/2010 3:21:50 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Admin Mod banned your account but I gave you a temporary reprieve due to your longevity here. But you have now been warned and there will be no further reprieves. You can use your free speech rights to promote the homosexual agenda elsewhere if that is your intention.
Thank you. I really didn't mean for this to spiral out of control like it did.
157 posted on 03/09/2010 3:22:52 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

It is not the government’s job to invent support structures for families or individuals. If a person or family has no support structure, it’s THEIR job to find one, invent one or do without. Regarding the responsibility of the community, it is the job of PRIVATE organizations and groups to provide support for needy people.

PRIVATE - NOT government. Churches, synagogues, other faith based groups, private charities - the more local the better - are who should be helping those who need help. And neighbors!

As soon as the government steps in, hell breaks loose. And it has.


158 posted on 03/09/2010 3:25:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
It is not the government’s job to invent support structures for families or individuals. If a person or family has no support structure, it’s THEIR job to find one, invent one or do without. Regarding the responsibility of the community, it is the job of PRIVATE organizations and groups to provide support for needy people.

PRIVATE - NOT government. Churches, synagogues, other faith based groups, private charities - the more local the better - are who should be helping those who need help. And neighbors!

As soon as the government steps in, hell breaks loose. And it has.

I'm not advocating government interference. I'm advocating conservatism have a clearer more positive agenda. It's perfectly fine to know what you don't like, but at the same time you have to know what you *like*. Too much of modern conservative is focused on opposition and too little on coming up with a concrete vision for what an ideal society looks like and how to attain it.
159 posted on 03/09/2010 3:28:42 PM PST by ketsu (ItÂ’s not a campaign. ItÂ’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ketsu

I think one of aspects of conservatism that seems to escape you is that it is up to individuals to decide what is “ideal” and then their individual responsibility to make it happen, personally.

Remember the “pursuit” of happiness. As long as there is life and liberty, the pursuit of happiness is each person’s kuleana. (responsibility, area etc).

I do not want any “manifesto” whether socialist, communist, fascist, utopian, Fabian or so-called “conservative”, telling me what ideal is.

Social structure founded on strong (aka “natural”) families, with the eternal spiritual values that are universal (note my Thos. Jefferson quote) is what is needed, along with government doing what it is Constitutionally mandated, and NOT A SPECK MORE.

No new manifestos needed or wanted.


160 posted on 03/09/2010 3:35:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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