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Victor Davis Hanson: Tomorrow’s Wars - Enormous, massively destructive engagements may again be...
City Journal ^ | Winter 2010 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 03/02/2010 5:22:03 PM PST by neverdem

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1 posted on 03/02/2010 5:22:04 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The next big set-piece battles will probably occur in the United States between the less urbanized areas and the more heavily urbanized areas ~ and will be exceptionally lethal when the nukes are cut loose.


2 posted on 03/02/2010 5:29:20 PM PST by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: muawiyah

Makes one think a bit differently about recent USSC Second Amendment casts... something to be said for the demise of the second in denser “blue” areas like DC and Cleveland if it could correspond to its strengthening in red areas everywhere else.


3 posted on 03/02/2010 5:46:21 PM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: neverdem

The past is prologue.


4 posted on 03/02/2010 5:52:07 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: neverdem
Somewhere in that article Hanson states “ honor and fear”

Lots of wars have been fought for less.

Good Hanson read.

5 posted on 03/02/2010 5:53:59 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: muawiyah
A whole genre of literature waxed and waned during the Cold War--the apocalypse of an ideological fight to the finish on American soil. One example was "The Journal of David Q Little" which actually included a nuclear attack against patriot insurgents in the Susquehanna Valley.

Those old books, gathering dust these forty years, may need to be relocated and dusted off. Who could have prophesied in reality the seizure of the White House by the Alien Usurper?

6 posted on 03/02/2010 5:54:45 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: nomorelurker
Lots of wars have been fought for less.

Yep. Look up the War of Jenkin's Ear for a good example.

7 posted on 03/02/2010 6:02:03 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: neverdem

This is a most interesting article. However, I think what is overlooked is that much of the world is envious of wealth and power. Whenever “they” think they can defeat us militarily they will strike. Beside that what else could motivate them. Internal problems - start a war to take their population’s mind off their immediate problems. If the ChiComs have a great deal of internal unrest, the ICBMS will fly and their armies will march. It is interesting to speculate who their allies may be in such an event.

Another factor which will cause wars is access to and control of natural resources. As the world’s population increases, if they are not educated, there will be an enormous population pool to exploit for an unfortunate war.

Unfortunately, our present leadership is severely limited by ideology and perhaps intelligence. May God have mercy on our children and their children.


8 posted on 03/02/2010 6:12:21 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine
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To: neverdem

Good article. I think that Hansen and Keegan, whom he cites near the beginning of his article, may be our two best writers on the nature of war in the West.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 6:17:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem
I would have to think that with nukes becoming more readily available and the advancements of rockets ... a few well placed EMP bursts over the advanced West would nullify the benefits of technology and could make major battles much more likely since some 150 years of advancements would disappear in moments.
10 posted on 03/02/2010 6:40:18 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Citizen Tom Paine

I think the article is not about whether wars will be fought, but how. It’s been sortof commonly accepted that the grand and decisive winner-take-all sort of battle is obsolete. Replaced by the skirmish warfare we’ve been seeing lately... insurgency... terrorism.

But these things run cyclicly, and he is wondering I think if we aren’t going to turn a corner into a new age of big set-piece battles. Among other changes as technologies become cheaper and more homogenous.


11 posted on 03/02/2010 6:48:24 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
Virtual war with PCs as Bots.

I say we attack AIG, ACORN and Goldman Sachs NOW!

12 posted on 03/02/2010 7:48:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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13 posted on 03/02/2010 7:50:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Was there a thesis to this other tan things change, stay the same, follow cycles and revolutionary change?


14 posted on 03/02/2010 8:08:50 PM PST by rmlew (Democracy tends to ignore..., threats to its existence because it loathes doing what is needed)
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To: CapnJack

EMP wouldn’t destroy the military they have known about, and taken steps to eliminate, the EMP damage. On the other for example take Germany or France and give them an EMP from a sneak Iranian launch. Good luck mobilizing armored units when the civilians are clogging the roadways in search of food and/or shelter.


15 posted on 03/02/2010 9:05:13 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 03/02/2010 9:41:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: muawiyah

Armageddon Now.


17 posted on 03/02/2010 10:09:52 PM PST by Pelham
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To: neverdem

Should a few reckless states feel that nuclear war in an age of antiballistic missiles might be winnable, or that the consequences of mass death might be offset by perpetuity spent in a glorious collective paradise, then even the seemingly unimaginable—nuclear showdown—becomes imaginable.

He’s talking about Iran here.


18 posted on 03/02/2010 10:18:32 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neverdem
Well, Obama and company have decided that we aren't going to need to fight any conventional wars anytime soon, although the Chinese, the Russians and the Indians, among others, do not seem to have come to the same conclusion. Thus, we are likely to lose that big battle. Not enough troops, and the high tech force multipliers will not be available in sufficient numbers.

Unless we use the few nukes left after they "downsize" that force too. But either way, if Hansen is right, we are screwed.

19 posted on 03/02/2010 10:22:43 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: CapnJack
a few well placed EMP bursts over the advanced West would nullify the benefits of technology

Not most military technology, which is designed to resist EMP. Has been every since we discovered the effect. Wouldn't do the civilian infrastructure any good though, and then we might win the first battle, and still lose the war. The civilian infrastructure ultimately supports the military too.

20 posted on 03/02/2010 10:30:27 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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