Posted on 02/15/2010 2:06:27 AM PST by FTJM
He could easily produce the long form birth certificate. The reason why he doesn’t is because it’s in his political best interests not to. When your political enemies are making complete fools of themselves, why stop them.
I am surprised the “birthers” aren’t on Obama’s payroll.
Now that's interesting.
The legitimacy of his presidency is an issue. I dont want to see it addressed by the Tea Party Movement or up and coming Conservatives. This would only be played out again and again by the MSM and labeled as conspiracy kooks. Instead, lets elect those who will demand answers. Then maybe, just maybe, BHO, Reid, Pelosi, Axelrod and all others involved in this massive fraud can rot in a cell. AMEN
The only other person I can possibly think of that knows the real story is Rep. Neil Abercrombie (now running for Gov. of HI). He has bragged on several occasions what good buddies he and BHO Sr. were. If Abercrombie is elected we need to keep an eye on him ‘cuz he could really fix this whole BC issue.
The courts are not in charge of everything, in fact, their unconstitutional role in elections is already too big.
This issue was decided by a special Joint Session of Congress on January 5, 2008, with Richard B. Cheney of Wyoming presiding.
That was the legal, constitutional venue for hearing this issue. Any Member of Congress or any Senator had the perfect right to raise this issue, which had been fully discussed, here and elsewhere, beforehand.
None did, and President of the Senate Cheney signed the papers.
End of story.
In any case now I demand to know the truth simply for satisfaction.
As a matter of intellectual curiosity, perhaps.
As a constitutional matter, the issue was closed when the special Joint Session of Congress convened for the purpose of, among other things, hearing objections to certifying the election, heard none.
As far as the Constitution is concerned, the matter was closed when the President of the Senate signed the papers.
There are many who believe Obama has put his granny in hiding and that the whole funeral was a staged event, further more those that witnessed Obama scattering the ashes claimed they were not consistent with what cremated human remains resemble, nor the amount.
There is still the other supposed witness to Obamas birth in Kenya a nurse in Mombasa that has been put into protective custody by Scotland Yard.
How many years will pass before the sealed intelligence document are opened to the public on “rumors” such as these? There are foreign intelligence assets abroad that have documented evidence proving or dis-proving these events.
I suppose if there was a deal made we could get the facts from them. Or we could say please...
It is irrelevant where the usurper, B. Soetero, was born. He has already acknowledged that one of this parents was NOT an American citizen... thereby invalidating his claim as being a natural-born citizen.
In addition, there have been indications that B. Soetero self-identified as a foreign student when he was at Columbia U. and Occidental College. This documents that, as an adult, he did not consider himself to be a natural-born citizen of the United States of America.
Not so sure about that. Fruit of a tainted tree is still a potent legal theory in this country.
“69,456,897 voting Americans”
You won’t arrive at truth by counting noses.
Why must we recognize one who is holding an office illegally? Why must we respect one who has not earned any respect?
What we have is a real-life Manchurian Candidate residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, who gained that position via ACORN fraud and phony campaign promises (lies), so that morons who believed he'd pay their mortgage, fill their gas tanks and give them some of his "stash" pulled the lever for him.
I can never respect such a pResident, and will always resist anything he says or does knowing that he does NOT represent the best interests of America.
It is closed also as a practical matter because there is simply no energy behind the cause. It is closed as a juridical matter because I cannot conceive of a scenario in which the court will not sidestep this matter as a political question or as a question more properly determined by the legislative branch under the Constitution, as you point out.
There is however a faint hope that enough states might pass legislation requiring production of documents cause Obama some difficulty in his quest for reelection. This is however only the faintest of hope.
The matter is effectively dead without dramatic, extrinsic evidence of his birth outside of the states. But this is a wholly different matter and the facts do not warrant denigrating the whole of the "birther" movement as crazy or racist. But even that reservation is a losing argument in the battleground of popular ideas.
“children of citizens of the United States”
Meaning BOTH PARENTS?
So is popular sovereignty.
If the founders had thought it wise to make the Supreme Court a French Cour de Cassation, I'm sure they would have.
They designed a very clever system. They insisted the electoral votes be opened and counted in public, with the previous Vice-President in the chair, for a reason. I'm sure it wasn't that they thought Congress had nothing else to do.
They also didn't involve the courts in elections, and that was for a VERY good reason.
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