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1 posted on 02/03/2010 1:04:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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AIG pays out bonus, and TurboTax Timmy says get the money back by taxing Hayfield County Savings and Loan because they knew what they were doing and loaned to the local citizens?


25 posted on 02/03/2010 2:20:03 PM PST by Leisler (We are in the best of hands)
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Advisers To Obama Wary of Bonus Tax
Asset Plan Readied; President Reiterates Support for Geithner

Washington Post Staff Writers
Monday, March 23, 2009 “I think the president would be concerned that this bill may have some problems in going too far — the House bill may go too far in terms of some — some legal issues, constitutional validity, using the tax code to surgically punish a small group,” Jared Bernstein, the top economic adviser to Vice President Biden, said on ABC’s “This Week.” “That may be a dangerous way to go.”
___________ Geithner Confirms Treasury Asked Dodd For Bonuses Loophole
By Elana Schor - March 19, 2009, Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has confirmed that his department did press Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT) to water down the executive-bonus limits included in last month’s stimulus bill, delivering a boost to the beleaguered Dodd — but at a greater potential cost to his own damaged credibility on Capitol Hill.

In an interview set to air later today on CNN, Geithner took “full responsibility for the situation” and said “calls for resignation are part of the job,” according to an early report on the network’s website.

Late Update: The full exchange between CNN’s Ali Velshi and Geithner is posted after the jump. It’s notable how rapidly the media has become fixated on this change to the Dodd amendment ... considering that most mainstream news outlets were fudging the truth on it just days after it became law.

VELSHI: Let’s just talk a little moment again about those payments and the legal ramifications of doing anything about it. Senator Dodd says that he had a clause that was put into the stimulus bill that basically allowed these payments to be made to people at AIG in this particular unit and he says that somebody at Treasury asked him to put it in.
GEITHNER: Let me just start by saying that Chairman Dodd has played an enormously important leadership role in this and he’s doing the right thing in trying to make sure that the assistance we provide don’t go to benefit people that shouldn’t benefit from these things. And I am enormously impressed by the importance of what he’s trying to do in this case.

VELSHI: But somebody - have we figured out who told him to put this clause in?

GEITHNER: This provision? We expressed concern about this specific version. We wanted to make sure it was strong enough to survive legal challenge. But we also worked with him to strengthen the overall framework and his bill has this very important provision we’re relying on now to go back and see if we can recoup payments that were made that there was no legal ability to block.

VELSHI: But inadvertently might somebody at Treasury have told Senator Dodd to do something that has now resulted in these payments not being able to ...

GEITHNER: No, again, what we did is just express concern about the vulnerability of a specific part of this provision, the legal challenge, as you would expect us to do, that’s part of the legislative process, but again, his bill also has this very important provision that allows us to go back and see if we can recoup these payments and we’re going to explore that, but in any case we’re going to make sure that the American people are compensated for any payments we can recoup.

VELSHI: Do we know who in Treasury had this conversation with whomever on the banking committee?

GEITHNER: Treasury staff were working Senator Dodd’s staff throughout this process. Again, that’s part of the legislative process.

VELSHI: But you weren’t involved in that directly?

GEITHNER: I did have with other officials some conversations with Chairman Dodd as he was going through this process but other provisions.

VELSHI: So not about this particular one. It wasn’t you telling ...

GEITHNER: No, but I’m not sure that’s relevant because Treasury staff did express concern about whether this provision was vulnerable to legal challenge.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/03/geithner-confirms-he-asked-dodd-for-bonuses-loophole.php


26 posted on 02/03/2010 2:46:43 PM PST by anglian
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The bonuses are chump change compared to the way in which AIG’s counterparties made off with millions at 100% book value.


27 posted on 02/03/2010 2:54:22 PM PST by Notary Sojac ("Goldman Sachs" is to "US economy" as "lamprey" is to "lake trout")
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I’m not a rocket scientist, just a recently retired banker but it seems to me that banking hasn’t changed in that if the FDIC increases fees or the feds come up with a new fee, it’s all passed on to customers - a tweak here and there, nothing changes to the bottomline.

Why is it the demobulbs can’t understand that corporations just pass taxes on to customers?

Also, the connection made by this tax cheat is more than passingly strange in what has become a very strange America, lately.


29 posted on 02/03/2010 3:01:54 PM PST by unique
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So the plan is to “punish” all “big” banks for the sins of AIG? With fees that will simply be passed along to the consumer?

Does that really make any sense? Well no. But hell hath no furry like an ultra-liberal socialist wannabe, whether scorned or not.


30 posted on 02/03/2010 3:43:48 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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Geithner on Wednesday asked the House Ways and Means Committee to support the new fee as a way of getting the money back.

Okay, give the money to them, take the money back, skim off the top and not a penny for the tax payers.

"Government" just isn't a good defining word for Washington any more.

31 posted on 02/03/2010 4:09:13 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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It is amazing how Uncle Sammy is so concerned about contract law for banker comp plans, but he’s completely willing to screw secured, senior debt holders for auto companies.


33 posted on 02/03/2010 5:11:40 PM PST by NVDave
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A tax by any other name is still a tax.


35 posted on 02/03/2010 10:45:15 PM PST by BAW (I'm right.)
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Nice try, Timmy. It was a focus-group tried attempt, but it just doesn't have a true populist ring.

You guys are screwed.

36 posted on 02/04/2010 3:03:13 AM PST by Lazamataz (Hey Obama, Can You Hear Me Now....? GOOOOoood......)
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FANTASTIC!!!

So the taxpayers get to pay for the bailout.....twice!

Yay for us.


37 posted on 02/04/2010 5:10:37 AM PST by Scotswife
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So we end up paying. Yep, that O really cares about the middle class. /SARC


38 posted on 02/04/2010 7:43:37 AM PST by Islaminaction
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Geitner may be gone if it comes to light that the Making Homes Affordable Act is another gift to bankers. MHA may simply be a taxpayer-money laundering scheme. Stay tuned.

Imagine MHA funds paying back TARP bailout funds instead of being used for loan modifications under MHA. It it's true, Geitner's going to be gone imo.

39 posted on 02/04/2010 9:01:31 AM PST by floriduh voter (Charlie Crist, you're sinking in the polls faster than a sinkhole on the interstate.)
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