"...And now for something completely different...A man with a tape recorder up his nose."
Posted on 01/24/2010 8:21:15 AM PST by Sub-Driver
BS! They knew exactly what they had the moment they drug him up to the front of the cabin with his jewels on fire. At the very least they were aware during the taxi in. The pilot would have made damned sure of what the situation was before he asked for special taxi instructions.
Holder couldn't pour pi$$ out of a boot without direction printed on the bottom of the heel. Geez, get real folks! These buffoons were installed in the place where their handlers wanted them just to keep us focused on them and not what the other hand is doing.
If we really did get everything useful out of him, then the next step should have been him swinging from a noose, not getting Mirandized.
Whoa...apparently you have not flown in a while. the TSA guy with the black shoes and white socks? He made the decision. Feel safer now?
Whoa...apparently you have not flown in a while. the TSA guy with the black shoes and white socks? He made the decision. Feel safer now?
"...And now for something completely different...A man with a tape recorder up his nose."
Well, you are right, I have not flown recently on any flight that had a bomber on it!
“Is there ANYONE, more irritating, smug, condescending, aloof, than this (who every time I see him, I’d give my next SS check to have 5 min alone with this retard and would wipe that smirk off his ugly puss, post haste) than this a-hole?”
Man, you and me both! It’s a toss-up as to who is the more arrogant pr*ck...this tool or his boss.
Is Gibbs speaking for himself, Obama, Holder or the entire administration? Or is he trying to make an “objective” statement and RAM IT DOWN OUR THROATS?
Experienced interogators... Who Laurel and Hardy? I bet all the good interogators left when Obumble was elected...
President Obama’s people are making two claims in favor of their approach, one, that it is effective at keeping us safe, and two, that it protects the Constitution. Both are wrong.
We are not more safe for several reasons. The terrorist is not interrogated, and we therefore don't gain valuable intelligence about future plots, collaborators, and terrorist methods and capabilities. Secondly, if treated as an ordinary criminal the terrorist may get off on a technicality or he might be released on parole in a few years to attack us again. He may also radicalize violent criminals in jail, such as the three individuals who attempted to bomb synagogues in Brooklyn several months ago, after converting to Islam in prison.
Secondly, it makes a mockery of our court system and our Constitution. President Obama is in effect saying that they will be given a fair trial, and then either be executed or held indefinitely. The stance is absolutely outrageous, it assumes that the conviction is either predetermined, or that they will be detained indefinitely, even if they are found not guilty. A predetermined outcome, which is exactly what Mr. Obama has promised, makes a mockery of our courts, since no such thing exists in a fair court system--in effect these would have to be show trials done for public spectacle. And detained them after they are acquitted likewise would make a mockery of our system. What was the point of the trial then?
The Obama administration's defense of their handling the Abdulmutalab case is a smokescreen. They claim they got all the information out of the bomber that they needed. There's no way for them to know that—he invoked the right to no self incrimination as soon as he was Mirandized. You would have to be a mind reader at this point to make the claim that Mr. Gibbs has made.
This should make it clear that we should not Mirandize terrorists in the future, especially not chatty ones who are feeding us intel. The problem is that the current administration seems to have a habit of doubling down on its mistakes. Got caught genuflecting to Saudi Royalty? Why not just do a really weird looking handshake/bow hybrid to impress the Japanese Emperor and let everyone in that country know you have no idea what you're doing?
Right now this case has comedic value. The “panty-bomber” attempted to murder 250 people, but instead bombed his own genitals and was eager to tell federal officials about his plan and his pals back home. The problem is that we are all targets for Islamic fundamentalist murderers. The incompetence and poor judgment of the current administration puts us, our families, and our fellow countrymen's lives at stake for the sake of an incoherent policy.
Note to President Obama. I respect that you would like to take the moral high ground, but this does not accomplish that, it does the opposite. And you can't take the moral high ground as long as you support abortion and infanticide—those two acts intentionally destroy innocent human lives. As much as you try to tell us you're on the right side, you're always going to have those two elephants in the room, as you learned during your campaign in Massachusetts.
Obviously we need a Flaming Underwear Czar to express Chairman Zero’s true outrage over this incident.
Hopefully I don’t need a sarc tag here.
Boxers soon to be banned in California, I hope
Gibbs, you freakin’ MORON!
Good question.
I don’t see how they can have it both ways!
It is obvious to most thinking people above the age of 11, that this was a massive mistake that threatens the security of the country.
Since the accused is just a common criminal with civil rights, and was not immediately read his rights, but was interrogated for 50 minutes, any lawyer fresh out of law school should be able to get him off on a technicality.
Seems Axelrod was having a “senior moment” there in forgetting certain precursor episodes involving waterboarding and that KSM had given up nothing in extensive soft interrogation!
The Obama administration is giving us two contradictory responses to justify their mistake.
According to the Politico story, President Obama’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, said, ”FBI interrogators believe they got valuable intelligence and were able to get all that they could out of him.”
Initially after this mistake had been made, however, President Obama sent his chief counter terrorism adviser, Robert O. Brennan, on a tour of the Sunday talk shows to justify the decision. Mr. Brennan did not attempt to sell the story that we had learned everything there was to know in 50 minutes. Rather he said we would be able to get the information by offering the terrorist a plea bargain deal.
“We have different ways of obtaining information from individuals” in the criminal-justice process, Brennan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “A lot of people . . . understand what they're facing, and their lawyers recognize that there is advantage to talking to us in terms of plea agreements, [and] we're going to pursue that.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/03/AR2010010302191.html?hpid%3Dtopnews
So what's the story? The Obama administration has given us two incompatible stories from top aides on public relations campaigns. Why the sudden change in rationalization by President Barrack Hussein Obama? Is it because Mr. Abdulmutallab hasn't taken a plea arrangement, and the mistake of that approach is now apparent? Maybe he'll take a plea and talk to us in his own good time, that is, after a related terrorist attack occurs, and there's little to be lost by spilling the beans after the fact?
Gibbs isn't necessarily lying, he's just engaging in Obama-speak, that is to say, he's intentionally misleading us. He doesn't actually say there wasn't anything more to be learned, he says the FBI agents "were able to get all that they could out of him.” Maybe they weren't going to get anymore info without enhanced interrogation techniques, or maybe they felt he needed immediate medical attention and sedation before proceeding to further questioning.
Unfortunately, it seems the old adage applies to our president. If his lips are moving, he's lying to us.
Come on.. quit kidding, that’s really you Baghdad Bob isn’t it.
Agree. Though I know the crew didn’t make a citizens arrest and I have my doubts the Air Marshall (if he was there - wink wink) read him his rights. That would have been left to the NYPD or FBI that met him upon landing.
You opinion of Obama & Company is true. Every one, including himself, keeps our eyes on the right hand while the left hand does the dastardly deeds ... just out of view.
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