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Israel says Iran nuclear plant immune to conventional strike
Space War ^ | 12/28/2009 | Staff Writers Via Space War

Posted on 12/31/2009 9:33:32 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

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To: sonofstrangelove

Drop a bunker buster on top of it to open a channel and then drop a nuke into the hole. The technology exists.


41 posted on 12/31/2009 10:57:31 PM PST by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: sonofstrangelove

They (Israel) don’t need a bunker-buster. Just tactical nukes with high-yield uranium.. The sites may not be destroyed but they will be hot for the next 100 or so years.


42 posted on 12/31/2009 10:57:58 PM PST by pankot
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To: The Cajun
Wonder what 3 of those bad boys would do if spaced at 5 second apart intervals. Me thinks they would do a little deep digging.

IMO the first one explodes, the other two will evaporate before they are close enough to the target. Perhaps three strikes with, say, 5 minutes between them might work... even that depends on how the machinery of those bombs works under extreme radiation.

However any nuclear strike option, on part of either Israel or the USA, is politically impossible. Iran is not at war with anyone. The country that dropped the bomb and killed, say, 100,000 people and caused widespread contamination of half of the Europe and Asia would certainly be punished - by a mandatory, worldwide trade embargo, for example. The General Assembly of the UN will gladly vote for that, overruling the [stalemate in the] Security Council.

I think the statement of Ehud Barak is crafted to explain, primarily to Israelis, why there will be no strike. I personally believe that impossibility of taking the Qom site out is just one facet of the problem. Much bigger problem is that Iran can inflict an unacceptable damage to Israel in return, just using its existing, conventional weapons. Iran's missiles may be poorly built, but they have plenty of them, on mobile launchers in mountains. By the time Iran is out of missiles there will be nothing left standing in Israel.

43 posted on 12/31/2009 11:14:43 PM PST by Greysard
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To: sonofstrangelove

I for one am shocked, SHOCKED, that the Iranians would be so inconsiderate as to place a weapons creation facility such that it would not be vulnerable to conventional airstrikes.


44 posted on 12/31/2009 11:21:42 PM PST by ObamaScaresMe (you know he'd try if he could)
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To: Greysard
"By the time Iran is out of missiles there will be nothing left standing in Israel."

Don't count Israel out. I've read the back of the book, and they win!

45 posted on 12/31/2009 11:25:00 PM PST by holyscroller ( Without God, America is one nation under)
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To: OCC

Thank you very much. I really enjoy Cold War stuff.


46 posted on 12/31/2009 11:32:05 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: holyscroller

Israel has a multi layered air defense network that uses the combination of PAC-3 and their Arrow missile. Cobra-Juniper.


47 posted on 12/31/2009 11:33:28 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: pankot

The higher yield nuke would produce a very high overpressure.


48 posted on 12/31/2009 11:35:03 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: OCC
This is one of theirs also. Sejjil2 I believe they call it. sejji 2
49 posted on 12/31/2009 11:39:16 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne Get Well Rush!)
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To: Greysard
IMO the first one explodes, the other two will evaporate before they are close enough to the target.

I would guess conventional deep penetrator bunker busters (by the nature of what they do) are pretty harden and designed to take a lot of G-forces and temperature before going boom. I think the follow ups would zoom right through the loose debris easier than the primary zoomed through a couple hundred feet of solid rock.

50 posted on 12/31/2009 11:40:21 PM PST by The Cajun (Mind numbed robot , ditto-head, Hannitized, Levinite)
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To: SierraWasp

That’s probably the bus. All intentional.


51 posted on 12/31/2009 11:40:34 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: ColdOne

Thats it. Their first solid booster rocket.


52 posted on 12/31/2009 11:43:42 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Notice the poster on the wall behind it.?


53 posted on 12/31/2009 11:44:48 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne Get Well Rush!)
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To: ColdOne

Yea. It makes me sick. Just imagine a couple of years down the road. They will graduate to intercontinental range.It seems that the Iranians has surpassed the North Koreans in rocket technology. The student has become the teacher.


54 posted on 12/31/2009 11:47:12 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: ColdOne
And it's mobile... yikes!


55 posted on 12/31/2009 11:50:18 PM PST by OCC
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To: sonofstrangelove

Obama and his clan have no idea who they are trying to play nice with. This is a religion to these people. The 12th Iman and all.


56 posted on 12/31/2009 11:50:49 PM PST by ColdOne (ColdOne Get Well Rush!)
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To: ColdOne

I agree.


57 posted on 12/31/2009 11:51:36 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("We will either find a way, or make one.""-Hannibal/Carthaginian Military Commander)
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To: A CA Guy

“Glass that rock!”


58 posted on 01/01/2010 12:20:56 AM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: The Cajun
I would guess conventional deep penetrator bunker busters (by the nature of what they do) are pretty harden and designed to take a lot of G-forces and temperature before going boom.

Yes, according to Wikipedia there are warheads that can dig pretty deep into the ground. However Iranians placed their plant even deeper - it is built under a mountain, just like the Cheyenne Mountain facility in the USA.

I think the follow ups would zoom right through the loose debris easier than the primary zoomed through a couple hundred feet of solid rock.

One common concern about that is that it's difficult to achieve precise aiming when there is so much dust in the air after the first strike. Optical targeting is impossible, and GPS may be unreliable too - besides, you have only milliseconds to react, and you need to place the follow-up bombs all within a few feet from each other.

59 posted on 01/01/2010 12:21:14 AM PST by Greysard
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To: himno hero

When the $hit hits the fan the results will be of biblical proportions right down to divine intervention.

Rest assured in those prophecies.<

Yes it seems we are right on track for the big one! All the pieces are falling into place. You best know whose side your on!!


60 posted on 01/01/2010 1:06:31 AM PST by timetostand (And a Hap Hap Happy New year !)
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