Libertarians Need to Rethink Support for Drug Legalization

Pajamas Media ^ | Dec. 22 | Mary Grabar

[wolfcreek]

Forget about Soros, he’s ANOTHER excuse for the WOD.

Here’s something right up your alley.

http://www.thedailypage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=47210&start=60

[Tolsti2]

This has been one of my biggest problems with libertarians and is why I’m a solid Republican. Also the foreign policy insanity.

[Molon Labbie]

Legalize the MJ, regulate and tax it. It’s no more dangerous than booze and probably less.

I would rather go to a call where the folks have been getting their smoke on versus their drink on. People smoking weed in the privacy of their homes are only dangerous to snack food.

As far the rest, meth, heroin, crack, no freaking way. I have never locked up a car thief or burglar who said he needed MJ money. Crack, “hairon”, different story altogether. People don’t steal their families and friends credit cards or identification because they need some grass.

I have arrested alot of people both violent crimes and drug crimes. Don’t believe the hype about prisons being full of non-violent drug offenders. It’s pure BS. The prisons are packed full of very dangerous scumbags who are released with regular frequency when another new violent scumbag needs to do some time. Every dope dealer I ever investigated and/or arrested had violent history and nearly all them where armed at the time I took them into custody.

Drug abusers get probation and redirection over and over again.

If you want verification, seek out the administration of your local penal system and ask them for the offense breakdown of their facility.

[truthguy]

All the Anti-Nanny State conservatives will rise to tell us how the State should be the Nanny in the case of drugs.

Boy do I really agree with your comments. I've noticed some real inconsistencies with some who call themselves real conservatives and yet are completely in agreement with the insane war on drugs. They are so inconsistent that it isn't funny. They believe that if drugs were legal every other person would be a drug addict. I try to tell them that every other person isn't a alcoholic. They simple ignore that and say that if alcohol were invented today it should be illegal! Frightening that these people are walking around and calling themselves conservatives. These people give the conservative movement a bad rap.

[Tublecane]

“How about the 1000’s killed every year due to the drug trade? Are those crimes?”

Yes. It’s called “murder”.

“Now go ahead, tell me that if drugs were legalized, there would be no need for drug crime.”

There would be no need for it, any more than there’s a need for crime over any other commodity. I hardly need to explain to you that drugs and crime are associated with one another for a very simple reason. Due to the threat of punishment, black markets attract people willing to risk punishment: i.e., criminals. It’s common sense. Take away the crime and you more or less take away the criminals.

[HangnJudge]

Libertarians believe it best to criminalize only
those causing a real danger to others.

Agree
Criminalize only behavior that substantively
injures other by loss of property
or measurable person injury

[org.whodat]

In abandoning the duty to enforce social order

What!! Libertarians cannot abandon something they do not believe in.

[org.whodat]

Can employers also test for alcohol impairment??

Yes, it's been that way for over ten years.

[dljordan]

“Its legalization is supported by the same forces that promote Kevin Jennings, one-world government, Gaia worship, and legalized prostitution.”

All the pot smokers I know have no idea what the things mentioned in this sentence are.

[freekitty]

I am really not interested in talking or doing business with people who are too high to really understand what is going on.

[enduserindy]

“Vices have been criminalized since the founding of the nation.”

Wrong.

[org.whodat]

And the pot didn’t kill him the bag/violence did.

Wrong, what killed the POS was nothing other than pure stupidity on his part.

[SaxxonWoods]

Why add the tax part?

I’ll give on the tax part to get to decriminalization. It won’t be possible to avoid sales tax. We have already learned that in Colorado.

Funny, I know 3 Coloradans who have obtained medical marijuana cards. All of them are millionaires who got there through years of hard work. Now I have to wave off their offers when I visit. (I’m a lightweight, the stuff makes me faint.)

[antiRepublicrat]

The dangers of marijuana on society?

A shortage of Cheetos?

[antiRepublicrat]

Another commerce clause rationalization, no doubt.

It started with the ability to tax. The Fed required a tax stamp, then refused to issue tax stamps. You can thank the racist, hypocritical anti-drug crusader Anslinger for that.

[steveo]

aptly chosen screen name.

[antiRepublicrat]

It’s the difference between governmental conservatives and social morality conservatives. IMHO the two positions are mutually exclusive in some areas, such as this one.

But after having read the article, I have come to the conclusion that the author is himself partaking of that which he wishes to keep banned.

[ridesthemiles]

There is a problem with legalizing MJ.

Insurance companies will not cover a person who is using drugs- either for workmen’s comp problems, or liability problems with driving a company truck.

This will kill small business.

[Phantom Lord]

Now go ahead, tell me that if drugs were legalized, there would be no need for drug crime. I love when I hear that.

See many Al Capones running shine and controling crime enterprises around it?

[TigersEye]

What part of the COTUS empowers the federal government to decide what I amy eat, drink, or smoke? Another commerce clause rationalization, no doubt.

It's not un-Constitutional when we do it. /s