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Cop's bullet aimed at barking dog hits owner instead
Madison Record ^ | 12/08/2009 | Madison Record

Posted on 12/08/2009 3:31:18 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

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To: calex59

“To blame this dog owner/law abiding citizen for having her dog shot at and herself wounded shows a brain that is in sore need of a transplant(that would be yours).”

I really should have used a sarcasm tag about the plaintiff being injured. My apologies.

To believe these dogs, owned by a woman who needs the help of police to remove her own son from her house, only barked, after reading this short article quoting the “suit”, shows brains that I might consider rabid. The comments that stem from this kind of thinking don’t seem as stupid as they do mad.


101 posted on 12/08/2009 9:51:26 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: Engineer_Soldier

I agree, the cop was reckless.

Possibly way out of line, if you can believe what the “suit” says.

But, definitely reckless.


102 posted on 12/08/2009 9:56:45 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: Chode

‘it states, and i quote [from the “suit” in the article]* “Williams discharged his official firearm twice in the direction of the dog.” ‘

If the lawyer’s suit proves to be the truth, I agree.

*Maybe I’ve seen too many enhanced statements from lawyers to take them at their word. The same could be said for the words of reporters in articles.

The time I’ve spent with the chronically homeless, alcoholics, drug addicts, etc. has jaded me to the way stories like this go down. The people that get the kind of attention from the police this lady needs have great difficulty with taking responsibility for their situations. And yes, I’ve seen most of them let their dogs be a real problem. No discipline.

There is a lot more to this story than the article covers.


103 posted on 12/08/2009 10:12:55 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

Calling people nazis is NOT a way to get your point across unless you want us to think you are a loon.


104 posted on 12/08/2009 10:39:17 PM PST by packrat35 (Ron Paul is a turd!)
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To: packrat35; Tolsti2
I will say this, as I have said a few times on this thread:

If you call the cops to your home, take care of your damn dog! Put it in a room, lock it up, put a leash on it.

Unless the police are serving a no-knock warrant, most of these dogs shooting could have probably been avoided if the owner woke up and thought about how their dog would react to an unknown cop coming into an already volatile situation.

Plenty of blame to go around.

105 posted on 12/09/2009 6:38:30 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
I was absolutely adamant with my Soldiers in Iraq to only fire when you have a threat targeted. Not a general direction, not a "maybe", or "I'm scared and want to shoot", etc., but this guy/girl/whatever is a threat and has to go. Arbitrarily firing your weapon like that wreaks of pure panicky stupidity or a total lack of professionalism--neither of which should be tolerated in any police force in America.

I absolutely agree with you that there are definitely two sides to every story, but I am seriously not getting this whole thing with cops and shooting dogs. This is not exactly an isolated incident, you know?

106 posted on 12/09/2009 6:47:23 AM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Well, I think it actually happens a lot LESS than it used to happen. Now they just write articles about it. I'm a New York City cop and let me tell you, the old timers talk about how they used to shoot pit bulls in the projects at the drop of a hate and no one said a word.

But we were taught "Do not shoot the dog!" in the academy except when the dog is absolutely about to cause you or someone else a physical injury.

I do think a lot of the cops we read articles about are a tad quick on the draw. That being said, we only read about those kind of cops. You never read an article about the thousands of cops who interact daily with dogs and do not pull the trigger. So let's keep it in perspective.

On an unrelated note, I'm going to FRmail you.

107 posted on 12/09/2009 7:13:21 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: driftdiver

Love it.
I’m gonna steal that one.


108 posted on 12/09/2009 7:24:57 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Cicero

Definitely.

I’m reminded of several situations where the cops were called in to “help” in family situations. One, where a deaf and developmentally-disabled guy was wielding a RAKE in Detroit, and another where a family member was freaking out in the kitchen.

I both cases, the family met the cops and explained the situation. In both situations, the cop charged in and killed the guy. They called the family for help and the cop escalates the situation through confrontation, resulting in a shooting.


109 posted on 12/09/2009 7:28:24 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: goat granny

“It seems to be a lot of dog shootings by cops lately. Never use to be that way”

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It may be that there is more reporting of dogs being shot, it may be that there are more people and dogs as the population grows, who knows. “It seems...” does not make a case. If I was a cop and a dog was attacking me, I would probably not be bitten as in fact I would be expecting an attack. The PD should have policy the officers are trained by for just such incidents (taser, pepper spray, bean bag shotgun, or lethal gunfire, whatever). If this particular PD does not, you can bet they soon will have such policy.

We had a case here in N. AZ where a man was shot because he would not call off his dogs. The shooter was convicted and sent to the big house but was later released on appeal when he was found to have acted in self defense. I would have acted the same is his situation. People’s dogs can be weapons and should be handled with similar precautions as firearms. I usually keep large Akitas myself and I know good and well I don’t want someone’s big dog threatening me, so as much as it is up to me, they can’t get into a situation where someone is threatened.


110 posted on 12/09/2009 7:48:29 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Don’t cops have pets as kids?


111 posted on 12/09/2009 7:58:58 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: packrat35

OK on the nazi thing.

Your posts, and the posts of many others on this thread make it clear to me that your thinking I am a loon is not worth being upset over.


112 posted on 12/09/2009 8:05:32 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian ( What happened to my tag line?)
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To: thefactor

I’ll agree that people should be doing that, however if you’re calling the cops there’s probably other things going on that might be distracting you from paying attention to your animals.

I just can’t imagine actually pulling my gun out as a CCW and shooting an animal running towards me unless it was a cougar or a wolf or something.

I carry pepper spray mostly for dogs, and the cops have that option too.


113 posted on 12/09/2009 12:17:07 PM PST by Tolsti2
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