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Army Wasn't Told of Hasan's Emails
The Wall Street Journal ^ | NOVEMBER 10, 2009, 8:33 P.M. ET | YOCHI J. DREAZEN and EVAN PEREZ

Posted on 11/10/2009 6:16:19 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; shield; STARWISE; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Seems to me that the military had the cards in their hand. They were the one with the player. Did they notify the CIA or FBI they had a problem/joker in their deck? OR was he just shuffled in the name of PC? How many more jokers are in the deck? Are they shuffling the pawns again to protect the king(s)?

Is this a scheme to undermine the militarize authority? Hatched by whom?

101 posted on 11/11/2009 2:25:16 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: jersey117
 He can start by telling us who appointed him to his DHS transition team and who promoted him to Major in May.

He wasn't appointed to the DHS transition team. He was one of the "finest minds" selected to be on the The George Washington University Homeland Security Policy Institute (HSPI) "Presidental Transition Task Force." It was a conference set up by "a nonpartisan “think and do” tank."

"With the historic Administration change in January, HSPI assembled a Presidential Transition Task Force composed of some of the finest minds in the country to leverage their expert insights into today’s most pressing matters of national and homeland security. The goal was to further policy discussions of the top strategic security priorities that command the attention of the new Administration. To push the boundaries of our thinking, the Task Force received briefings from subject-matter experts and launched a series of roundtable discussions, “Thinking Anew – Security Priorities for the Next Administration” to further consider vital security issues. Other events include a distinguished panel addressing terrorism finance issues, and several events with leading British and American experts on counter-radicalization and rehabilitation at home and abroad."

It was a privately-sponsored event, entirely separate from DHS and the Obama transition team.

As for the promotion -- it's been said by dozens of sources that it was an "automatic" for an Army doctor. The Army brass is answerable for that.

And I'm not defending Obama in any way. It's avoiding reality, though, to focus blame solely on one person, branch or institution for this -- there were a whole lot of people who passed the buck, or worse, in this case. Now 14 people, including an unborn child, are dead due to their dereliction and the worship of PC platititudes.

102 posted on 11/11/2009 3:03:15 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

just damn


103 posted on 11/11/2009 4:09:53 AM PST by CRBDeuce (here, while the internet is still free of the Fairness Doctrine)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

The only way the DOJ, FBI, ARMY, etc begins to look remotely good given this trail of evidence, is that they WERE watching him and monitoring his contacts, emails, voice calls, etc...in an attempt to increase their knowledge of home growing terrorists in and around the country... and then Hasan finally learn’s of this, and thinks he is going to be taken out of the system, and then acts (shooting) too quickly for any of investigators to stop him. He did act like he was going to be taken out of the system by giving away all his worldly possessions right before his terrorist jihadist actions in Texas.


104 posted on 11/11/2009 5:21:55 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

The only way the DOJ, FBI, ARMY, etc begins to look remotely good given this trail of evidence, is that they WERE watching him and monitoring his contacts, emails, voice calls, etc...in an attempt to increase their knowledge of home growing terrorists in and around the country... and then Hasan finally learn’s of this, and thinks he is going to be taken out of the system, and then acts (shooting) too quickly for any of investigators to stop him. He did act like he was going to be taken out of the system by giving away all his worldly possessions right before his terrorist jihadist actions in Texas.

The only oops or black eye, in this scenario in this the failure of the “watchers” in learning and or preventing Hasan from purchasing and or using the weapon(s) he used to kill American Soldiers. Note that the US Army does not issue weapons to physicians, so he got this from someone, probably even from one of his contacts that the very same “watchers’ were following and gathering evidence of more jihadist activities.


105 posted on 11/11/2009 5:29:09 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: shield

Hmmm... maybe we have two new recipients to Gitmo, and the one they thought was going to die, Hasan, is recuperating in the hospital.

Hopefully, if this is the case, we are presently working in gathering information in Gitmo from these other two to stop additional jihadist activity in the USA.


106 posted on 11/11/2009 5:37:10 AM PST by MajorThomas (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.)
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To: potlatch

Thanks for posting this.
America is in BIG trouble. Diversity is killing us. It is time to celebrate intolerance. Did you ever hear a parent say, “I will not tolerate that.”

The leaders of America are pathetic. A committee to study why this happened will not stop any more killings. A swift and immediate removal of those currently under suspicion would surely save lives.


107 posted on 11/11/2009 6:02:58 AM PST by azkathy (OBAMA IS WEARING OUT MY CAPS LOCK!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; ...
The FBI said it turned over the information to the Army, but Defense Department officials today denied that. One military investigator on a joint terror task force with the FBI was shown the e-mails, but they were never forwarded in a formal way to more senior officials at the Pentagon, and the Army did not learn of the contacts until after the shootings.

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" ... Mr. Obama says his administration will investigate the incident as thoroughly as possible. "On Friday, I met with FBI Director (Robert) Mueller, Defense Secretary (Robert) Gates and representatives of the relevant agencies to discuss their ongoing investigation into what led to this terrible crime. And I will continue to be in close contact with them as new information comes in," he said.

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"Earlier Saturday, W. Roy Smythe, chief of surgery at Scott & White Memorial Hospital, said "a lot of progress has been made" in treating patients wounded in the rampage and that "some of them are out of the woods."

But Smythe, flanked by Texas Gov. Rick Perry and two state representatives, told reporters there is a possibility some patients will be "physically impaired" for life. And, he said, there's "no doubt many" will be "psychologically impaired the rest of their lives."

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The FBI (ROBERT MUELLER) is the principal investigative arm of the United States Department of Justice (ERIC HOLDER). It has the authority and responsibility to investigate specific crimes assigned to it. The FBI also is authorized to provide other law enforcement agencies with cooperative services, such as fingerprint identification, laboratory examinations, and police training.


108 posted on 11/11/2009 10:34:09 AM PST by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
" ... Mr. Obama says his administration will investigate the incident as thoroughly as possible. "On Friday, I met with FBI Director (Robert) Mueller, Defense Secretary (Robert) Gates and representatives of the relevant agencies to discuss their ongoing investigation into what led to this terrible crime. And I will continue to be in close contact with them as new information comes in," he said.

Translation is the same as Sept. 2008 during the financial meltdown: Call me if you need me.

109 posted on 11/11/2009 10:36:08 AM PST by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: STARWISE

I can’t keep up now. I’ve read so many accounts about who knew what and when that I am just sticking to my normal jaded belief that bureaucrats screwed up.

It’s still a shock this happened.


110 posted on 11/11/2009 10:38:23 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: azkathy; All
Thanks Kathy. They better start paying attention, there are more warnings out there!

 

 

111 posted on 11/11/2009 10:41:22 AM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks STARWISE.


112 posted on 11/11/2009 10:42:48 AM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is the result of 11 months of an Obama administration that spent months going after our CIA agents and anyone else given the task of protecting America.

Then we have Eric Holder refusing to prosecute those who intimidated voters.

Napolitano having lists of pro-lifers and right wing extremists.

But no one watching or communicating on actual enemies embedded in our military and the homeland.

This is definately not the change many were looking for.


113 posted on 11/11/2009 10:56:30 AM PST by swheats (America! America! God mend thine every flaw, Confirm thy soul in self-control, Thy liberty in law!)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the important updates starwise!

(Marked for archive)


114 posted on 11/11/2009 10:59:43 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: SE Mom

115 posted on 11/11/2009 11:01:01 AM PST by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

Welcome .. ;)


116 posted on 11/11/2009 11:18:47 AM PST by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: La Enchiladita

Remember when I said I would ping you if there was an update on the health status of the victims?

See post #108..

“But Smythe, flanked by Texas Gov. Rick Perry and two state representatives, told reporters there is a possibility some patients will be “physically impaired” for life. And, he said, there’s “no doubt many” will be “psychologically impaired the rest of their lives.””


117 posted on 11/11/2009 11:52:31 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: STARWISE

I think I need to copy the entire post for the archives. Not sure there are any FR threads with those articles. I’ll post a link back to here...


118 posted on 11/11/2009 11:54:03 AM PST by Freedom2specul8 (I am Jim Thompson............................Please pray for our troops....)
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To: potlatch; Fred Nerks; All

See Post #92 for Eric Holder to speak at Cair

and ALL, see here for ZAID SHAKIR:

Eavesdropping on a Sunni Muslim Scholar Upon the Passing of One of Islam’s National Leaders

FACES of ISLAM’S FUTURE?-—Four Prominent Scholars

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278969/posts?page=434#434


119 posted on 11/11/2009 12:50:39 PM PST by thouworm
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To: thouworm
Thanks.
Officially they say anything, and then do it ‘Under The Radar’.

Attorney General Eric Holder has agreed to give a keynote speech next week to a Michigan group which includes CAIR, even though the FBI has formally severed contacts with the controversial Muslim civil rights organization.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/1109/Despite_ban_Holder_to_speak_to_CAIRlinked_group.html

120 posted on 11/11/2009 1:23:43 PM PST by potlatch (ACTIONS - Speak Louder Than Words)
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