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1 posted on 10/24/2009 11:44:00 AM PDT by george76
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PING for later reading.


50 posted on 10/24/2009 1:30:45 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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We saw this coming a long time ago. I was guessing 30,000 a year jobs; but now they will be lucky to find a job.

They can thank Obama and his Hopey Changey. He not only knocked their dreams to the ground; they are further in debt without a prayer of getting out.

That’s your hopey changey guys. While you suffer; he is living the high life and he doesn’t care. Just keep listening and believing his lies and you will never advance.


52 posted on 10/24/2009 1:31:20 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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The problem is it doesn't match the work anymore." (That is to say, not enough students are getting science and math degrees.)

Has anyone yet refuted Business Week's The Science Education Myth?

from 1985 to 2000 about 435,000 U.S. citizens and permanent residents a year graduated with bachelor's, master's, and doctoral degrees in science and engineering. Over the same period, there were about 150,000 jobs added annually to the science and engineering workforce.

There are actually too many math and science students for the market. A friend of mine who graduated Summa Cum Laude in physics is now retraining to become a math teacher. Is a bachelor's in physics or biology really that marketable?

"I don't have these graduates in Europe and Asia telling us they want to live with mom and dad or they don't want to relocate to Asia."

So Americans are more loyal to hearth and home than foreigners. In my opinion, this is a plus. If aging mom and dad don't have their kids to help them, they'll be more likely to rely on government. Kids who stay near home can preserve local culture and love for liberty. Overseas they might only learn about exotic drinks and weird pop culture.

58 posted on 10/24/2009 2:12:48 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://twitter.com/kevinjjones)
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I’ve spent a lot more time on the interviewer side of the desk and can tell you that I don’t hire the degree; I hire the person. That person comes with educational, skills, expertise, experience, expectations, etc., and we make the best decision we can with the information available.

To say the degree is worthless is misleading. True, some degrees open more doors than others, but if a person expects to be hired based on a degree, then they’re not going to working for me, and their perception that their degree is worthless will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

That said, don’t believe anything an HR recruiter tells you.


60 posted on 10/24/2009 2:16:22 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (She introduced me to so many new things... pasteurized milk, sheets, monotheism...)
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What is an ‘education’? Is it a degree, or 2 or 3 of some sort? Or is education the ability to think, reason and understand?

In some states, why is a college graduate with an “education” major, with no other experience of any kind, qualified to teach high school chemistry and a practicing lab director from a major pharma firm NOT qualified to teach?

Much in the 1st and 2nd year of modern college coursework should have been, and used to be, completed in high school. Most of the information and skills from the first 3 years of an American university can be had from readily available and cheap USED textbooks and the internet.

Advanced coursework and graduate studies are so thoroughly pickled with uber-liberal and socialist professors and instructors that young minds don’t stand a chance for success unless they toe-the-line and conform.

It has been claimed that the production of college graduates is simply a way to keep otherwise un-qualified practitioners employed.

I tend to agree.


63 posted on 10/24/2009 2:30:34 PM PDT by Macoozie (Go Sarah! Palin/Bolton 2012)
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We may have the best minds, the best liberal arts education.

I smell production in our future now!

Good God what have we wrought?

67 posted on 10/24/2009 3:32:24 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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68 posted on 10/24/2009 3:47:04 PM PDT by warsaw44
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a human services director telling students to get better degrees.....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm...


96 posted on 10/25/2009 1:55:38 AM PDT by cherry
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