Posted on 10/23/2009 4:06:55 AM PDT by spirited irish
snip: It is not about different and equally valid world views or opinions, it is about Light and Dark, Good and Evil, Truth and Illusion
Spirited: To the point and succinctly stated. Those who cannot see the gathering forces of evil moving freely about the world are completely blind.
“What is the purpose of this transmogification of reality by means of satanic destruction of it?”
Spirited: Dostoevsky’s conclusion: Dionysian despair motivated by massively inflated Pride of Mind, of Eye and of Flesh that says to our Lord: It is You Who are the cause of evil (our sufferings).
Indeed. Unfortunately, this pathology seems to be gathering steam....
I almost piled on with a bunch of selections from Robert Musil's The Man without Qualities, which gives many examples of the type of spiritual sickness pioneered and exemplified by Bakunin. Bakunin was a prophet of his age; from him one goes in a straight line to Lenin and Stalin. One imagines such predators cannot exist unless the spiritual condition of their intended victims is utterly depleted....
Thank you ever so much for writing, dearest sister in Christ!
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Very interesting observation, spirited!
Sticking with symbolic language here: Dionysus (Bacchus) is the god of disorder, of frenzy, of insanity, of "ritual madness." He cannot maintain order in himself, for he is fated to be ritually torn apart by the maenads (the [female] "raving ones") in their religious celebrations of the god.
The "foil" (i.e., the "opposite number") of the god Dionysus would be the god Apollo — who, as the god of reason, is a god of order.
The thought strikes me that it is the lot of the human being to live in the dynamic "tensional field" established by the "poles" of these two gods. I.e., human existence is conducted "in between" the "pole" of Dionysus and the "pole" of Apollo, in between chaos and order.
Take this insight into the human person and extrapolate it to social dimension, and you can see that the entire society conducts its life in the same Dionysian–Apollonian tensional field. And these days, it seems the emphasis has clearly shifted toward the Dionysian "pole." That is, to disorder.
snip: “Take this insight into the human person and extrapolate it to social dimension, and you can see that the entire society conducts its life in the same Dionysian–Apollonian tensional field. And these days, it seems the emphasis has clearly shifted toward the Dionysian “pole.” That is, to disorder.”
John of Damascene pointed to the pre-flood world as the birthplace of Gnosticism. Gnosticism he said, arose out of the barbarianism of the pre-flood world. Barbarianism in the sense of which John speaks of it means: every man did what was right in his own eyes. And in the background were demons, under whose influence were all men except a remnant.
Was it merely coincidence that Nietzsche foretold the coming of amoral ‘supermen’ who would stand beyond good and evil or did his prophecy have the same source as his Thus Spake Zarathustra? In that Zarathustra is now known to have been the product of two ‘mystical encounters’ had by Nietzsche, my money is on the same mystical encounter as the source for his prophecy.
Nietzsche’s superman prophecy bears an eerie similarity to predictions made by Ascended Master DK in what he called The Plan for the restarting of the cosmic battle that began in the pre-flood world.
During the 1940s DK made use of Alice Baily in the same way that Nietzsche’s ‘guide’ made use of him and the same way Maitreya makes use of Benjamin Creme (and others) and Barbara Marx Hubbards’ spirit master “christ’ makes use of her. Over a period of 7 years, a nameless unseen entity used an atheist Jewish woman to write down A Course In Miracles, which today Oprah Winfrey obligingly broadcasts the teachings of on her show and radio program to millions of gullible people. Once we begin digging into this sort of thing, what comes to light is mind-boggling.
What did DK prophecy? In part, that between 10-20% of the world’s population would become completely possessed, and that through them, the “Father of Disorder, Lies, Nihilism, Anarchy” (etc)would arrive and the final destruction of the old order would take place. In other words, as it was in the beginning, so it would be again.
Dostoevsky foresaw this as well. And when he spoke of men like Marx, Nechaeyev,Bakunin, et al, it was in this way: ‘they were possessed but did not realize it until it was too late.’ The ‘isms’ said Dostoevsky, were demons, hence those who took the ‘isms’ into their minds-souls were ‘eaten by the ideas.’
As you astutely pointed out betty, the pole shifts ever more toward disorder, and no wonder, given the enormous increase in demonic activity. Solzhenitsyn saw it, so do many others.
That seems to be the main motif of "our age," dear spirited irish!
Back in in 1978, Solzhenitsyn gave his world-famous address to Harvard. At that time, I was working on the other side of the river Charles; but I swear, I could hear the cries of pain and howling dissension emanating from that august community, on that occasion. They were howling like "stuck pigs." And I could hear it, literally, from as far away as Chestnut Hill....
Gurus who profit from social disorder — and work themselves up to a fever pitch to "instantiate it" into the public body — have no use for a Solzhenitsyn. For Solzhenitsyn is a man of order.
They, of course, were the would-be "supermen" of their time. They didn't like the way Solzhenitsyn cut them down into the fatuity and petty arrogance of their "world-beater" prescriptions for the future of humanity — under their expert "guidance."
From my seat in Chestnut Hill, it sounded a good deal like the rending of Dionysus by the menaeids....
I think “demon” fits, as described below:
“Those who are demoniac do not know what to be done and what is not to done. Neither cleaniness nor proper behavior nor truth is found in them.
They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust. [Note: “survival of the fittest”.]
Following such conclusions, the demoniac, who are lost to themselves and who have no intelligence, engage in horrible, unbeneficial works meant to destroy the world.
The demonic, taking shelter of insatiable lust, pride and false prestige, and being thus illusioned, are always sworn to unclean work, attracted by the impermanent.
They believe that to gratify the senses unto the end of life is the prime necessity of human civilization. Thus there is no end to their anxiety. Being bound by hundreds and thousands of desires, by lust and anger, they secure money by illegal means for sense gratification.
Bewildered by false ego, strength, pride, lust and anger, the demon becomes envious of the Supreme Lord, who is situation in his own body and in the bodies of others, and blasphemes against the real religion. [Note: being situated as the divine witness in every living being’s heart.]
There are three gates leading to this hell - lust, anger, and greed. Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation of the soul.”
(Some verses from Chapter 16, The Divine and Demoniac Natures, of the Bhagavad Gita.)
How very interesting! The Bhagavad Gita’s definition closely parallel’s ancient Christian scholars definition of Gnostics, and of their malignant envy of God.
Read “Demonic Nothingness: Liberalism’s Eternal Equality in Hell” and see what I mean.
Ooops! I forgot the link: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2331112/posts
Thank you, I will read it.
Eternal truth is eternal truth. It is true for everyone, for all time.
When people think there is no eternal truth, they invent their own, and believe it with just as much fervor as though it were real.
Hmm, I will check and see if it got pinged out.
And I very strongly agree with the pre-flood insights. Very little is recorded in the Torah (Genesis 6) - just an outline of the circumstances that preceded judgment.
To sum up the pseudepigrapha insight: the angels who bred with human women were on assignment to watch after Adamic men who had been banished to mortality (Genesis 3.) Instead, those angels corrupted Adamic men with forbidden knowledge and produced evil giants by breeding with the women. As part of the flood judgment, the errant angels were placed in bondage/darkness for final judgment in the end of days.
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast [them] down to hell, and delivered [them] into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth [person], a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; - 2 Peter 2:4-5
Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.
For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. - 2 Peter 3:3-7
Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; - I Timothy 4:1
“Since demonic chaos preceded the judgment by flood, it seems perfectly reasonable to me that demonic chaos shall precede the judgment by fire.”
Spirited: Yes indeed. And in these last days of enormous increases in ‘knowledge,’ consider that not only do we now possess the ‘knowledge’ to destroy ourselves by nuclear-’fire’ but that the ‘green occult spiritists’ behind the arising NWO are determined to become the sole-possessors of that ‘fire.’
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dear spirited irish!
Linking threads-—thread below based on same article
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2371569/posts
Thanks for the link!
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