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Next Step As Obamacare Goes Nuclear
HumanEvents.com ^ | 10/16/2009 | Connie Hair

Posted on 10/16/2009 8:23:13 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama

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To: sport
That is a separate issue. Clearly the Democrats are out to pas this bill regardless of what others say. Given that attitude, what else could any of the rest of us do?

I know they may not have been impressed, but to say that nothing was done is to treat the 2 to 3 million who went to Washington the same way the Democrats and MSM did.

41 posted on 10/16/2009 9:10:46 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: benewton

Not sure that is would, but I think Cap & Trade would.

At least in the Oil Producing Region.

If it comes it will be a State action, not individuals.

Someone uncork his hidden history, it is time for Obozo to Exit Stage Left.

There can be no recovery until he is out of office.


42 posted on 10/16/2009 9:13:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one.)
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To: ctdonath2; 2nd amendment mama; Just mythoughts; maggief; GOPJ; Condor51; AuntB; ...
Reference 4th Amendment: Socialized health care is impossible without seizing private medical records----the 4th prohibits seizure without warrants.

The Constitution is meaningless to the present govt. We ain't seen nuttin' yet. Ohaha’s got BIG plans, much much BIGGER PLANS for us. Ohaha told the N/Orleans crowd: "I'm not tired. I'm just getting started."

Once govt gets control of medical care, all the defining, controlling features of socialist govt can be introduced, one by one.

PASTE THIS ON YOUR BATHROOM MIRROR AND MEMORIZE IT . "Medicine is the keystone of the arch of the socialist state.” Vladimir Lenin.

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Obama-Soros Health Crimes
Canada Free Press | 10/14/2009 | Joy Tiz
FR Posted Wednesday, October 14, 2009 by jazminerose

Most of Obama’s stated plans for America are indistinguishable from those of George Soros. As the left forces nationalized health care on us, we may want to consider Soros’s Project on Death. Soros is a leading promoter of the assisted suicide movement. He papers over it with tripe about compassion; in reality, the project is a push for palliative care rather than treatment for gravely ill patients. As always, it’s all about the money: (Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...

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NOTE: The Emanuel brothers--Rahm and Zeke---are in charge of the healthcare trillions.


On the plus side, Dr Zeke was spit-shining his penny loafers when the subject of "death panels" surfaced.

43 posted on 10/16/2009 9:15:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: luvbach1
Next stop a dictatorship?

Being necessary for the security of a FREE STATE, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

We are deviating well away from a free state these days...

44 posted on 10/16/2009 9:17:42 AM PDT by meyer ("I went to Europe to buy the Olympics for Chicago and all I got was this silly Nobel")
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To: luvbach1
Next stop a dictatorship?

In case no one has noticed, the coup has already taken place.

it started in earnest last fall and continued since - the Republicans have been SHUT OUT of meetings, of hearings, of any input - literally SHUT OUT as if they weren't even in DC.

I realize that whichever party has the majority has the advantage - but never before has that meant they - and they alone - write the bills, decide which one shall even come to the floor - and how, have "private" meetings without anyone from the other party, etc etc.

WE think they're getting ready for a coup?

I think it has already happened.

Buckle your seat belts, it's gonna be a rough ride -

and find a way to grow and store food - but let NO ONE, other than family, know you have any food storage, because they have laws now - in the 'security bills - that would, in time of emergency - allow the gendarmes to come into your home and search for stored food - it would no longer be 'stored' but "hoarded" and you would be a criminal with fines/jail. (Enemy of the people.)

Think on this: They have commandeered the auto industry, the banking industry, the college loan must now ALL be from the gov't, and now the health bill- which, among things like fines and jail, allows them to have access to ALL you financial records - banking, etc.

Now, one tiny step further and everyone is under there iron thumb.

The trucking industry - which NO ONE is saying a word about - is in dire straights. Over a quarter million drivers have lost their jobs in the last year and thousands of trucking co.s have gone bankrupt.

Shipping is down dramatically, shipping containers are lying still by the thousands here and abroad.

Combine that with the fact that your local supermarket has ONE days supply for it's customer base. ONE DAY.

Now remember a top tenet of Marxist strategy to rule a people: CONTROL THE FOOD, CONTROL THE PEOPLE.

Any day, they could take over the trucking industry. Then you will be dependent on them for your very daily food. The masses will behave.

Put in some emergency rations - dried goods like beans, peas, rice, dried soups/veggies are a good start as they will last for years and take up less space than other foods like canned goods.

The LDS (Mormon) Church, decades ago, warned it's people to practice storage - 2 years supply, as well as have your own water supply.

You can find advice from them on how to gather/store/use and rotate storage foods.

Few of us here today could ever envision what is happening in this country today. Many, who've been around as long as I have = and had a REAL education in school, complete with history, have known this was the goal of the socialists/marxists in this country for decades - but few could believe it none would listen.

They're listening now - Pray to God it isn't too late.

In the meantime - get your head around this - a silent coup has already taken place in DC.

Batten down your hatches = and get some supplies in...and put in gardens come spring - even it means using your lawn - make it "English" with a combination of vegetable and flowers - serves two purposes, makes it pretty and flowers attack beneficial insects, like lady bugs and bees.

And PRAY like you've never prayed before. )Even the scientists now admit that prayer really works - they're even beginning to understand the why of it = and they call it "Noetic Science."

Those who believe what Jesus taught - but few ever 'got' - know how and why it works.

45 posted on 10/16/2009 9:21:08 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: sport

I concur 100 percent with what you posted. Thanks for telling it like it is.


46 posted on 10/16/2009 9:21:13 AM PDT by hot4plasma
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To: Safrguns

I thought the same way as you do, for a while. I believe it was arizona, who was having some vote, on excuding thier state from healthcare reform. I thought this was a great idea, until I began to think about what the reform would actually do.

Tell me what you think of my thoughts on this..and whether or not states opting out..will matter or not.

If that HR3200 type bill is passed..employers will be fined for not providing insurance. Most americans get their insurance thru work.

So, lets say the fine..is less than what the employer is shelling out. What do you think he will do? If the fine is less..he will drop his employees insurance. Under that plan, you would then have to buy govt insurance.

If your state opts out..what happens? You cant have ANY insurance?

You are forced to buy the govts.

This is why I think, opting out, ultimately wont matter. They have us over a barrel.


47 posted on 10/16/2009 9:22:00 AM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: sport

Sorry.
The current administration WANTS conservatives to do something silly and violent. They would love an excuse to crack down on us.


48 posted on 10/16/2009 9:25:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: Military family member

My hat is off to everyone that went. At one time that would have been effective. But now we are dealing with evil power worshipping individuals. Who, as the Bible says, “Regard neither God or man.”


49 posted on 10/16/2009 9:29:24 AM PDT by sport
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To: Little Ray

“The current administration WANTS conservatives to do something silly and violent. They would love an excuse to crack down on us.”

BINGO!!!!!! That’s all they need, and they are banking on it.

We are being played like the fiddles of Nero..


50 posted on 10/16/2009 9:31:34 AM PDT by hot4plasma
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To: Little Ray

They will do it anyway. Who said anything about dping anything silly or violent? I was just saying that thy know us and they know the other side.


51 posted on 10/16/2009 9:36:15 AM PDT by sport
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To: JohnQ1
Portrait of Olympia Snowe:

(If you get the reference.)

52 posted on 10/16/2009 9:37:27 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: New Yawk Minute

America has absolutely no choice but to have a military backed armed revolution at this point. America will NEVER get rid of Obama. He’s a tyrannical dictator who is full of the devil. He means to utterly destroy America and millions of her people, all the while enriching himself and pretending to be a King. I pray to God that America wakes up right now and does what it needs to do or you will be experiencing Obamageddon!! CO


53 posted on 10/16/2009 10:06:40 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: maine-iac7

Your #45: great post.


54 posted on 10/16/2009 10:20:54 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Worse than we could have imagined.)
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To: maine-iac7

This was a great post. I agree so much. Lately, I have become a news addict. (Imagine? This from a person who never paid attention before). You arent the only one that feels this is whats going on. I have also read many, many articles and websites on food storage.

Day by day..a few more people are waking up...I think.

The only thing that bothers me is..are those of us who are aware of whats going on..better off than those who dont? By now, its obvious..we cant do anything about it.


55 posted on 10/16/2009 10:35:37 AM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: Canadian Outrage

Military backed? Whose military? The US’s? Fat chance.

This is why violence will get you nowhere. No a days word for a revolution, would be a riot.


56 posted on 10/16/2009 10:37:49 AM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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To: Liz
“PASTE THIS ON YOUR BATHROOM MIRROR AND MEMORIZE IT . “Medicine is the keystone of the arch of the socialist state.” Vladimir Lenin. “

You're preaching to to choir -

RAther: Print it out in bold and color (Commie red) and mail it all republicans and Blue Dogs = to remind them and let them know We Know. - hopefully, make the think twice about letting this behemoth pass.)

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt

bookmark the links for frequent use ;o)

57 posted on 10/16/2009 10:42:43 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" LINCOLN)
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To: New Yawk Minute

You have elected violent thugs. Trust me, they will have no problem using violence against you. But then again, you live there, I don’t. CO


58 posted on 10/16/2009 10:59:25 AM PDT by Canadian Outrage (Conservatism is to a country what an antibiotic is to an infection - Healing!!!!)
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To: Liz
Thanks for the ping, Liz.
Fscinating.

If you had an contact with "stephen" recently, he might've told you what I told him? Nothing earth shaking, per se, but an interesting tidbit from flyover nonetheless and from the most unlikeliest sources. of

Will drop you a FM, later, explain.
*Just* in case he didn't relate the tale. :^)

59 posted on 10/16/2009 10:59:40 AM PDT by Landru (If you want to perform for 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 5 days, a YEAR! Call...)
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To: Canadian Outrage

I didnt elect them.

And if you dont live here, you shouldnt be advising those who do, on violence.

This may come as a surprise to you, but we do have laws here, which most of us obey.

We will get thru this one way or another. I have faith in the american people. The thugs wont be in charge long.


60 posted on 10/16/2009 11:03:48 AM PDT by New Yawk Minute
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