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Orly Taitz Gets Joy Behar Very Nervous About the Obama Eligibility Case (Video)
You Tube ^ | 10/14/2009 | Joy Behar Interviews Orly Taitz

Posted on 10/14/2009 7:40:10 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: trumandogz
If anyone who does not believe the multitude of birther theories is not a Conservative, then Justice Scalia is not a conservative since he adopts the jus soli definition of NBC.
241 posted on 10/14/2009 12:29:47 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: stockpirate
Well if what you say is true, we both hold a lot of the very same views. With one exception and that of course being I support the attempt to have his birth records made public so I can determine if he in fact can serve as president.

The second exception being that you consider anyone who isn't a Birther to be a liberal, while I can accept that even Birthers can have conservative beliefs.

242 posted on 10/14/2009 12:33:42 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: El Gato
The one thing Judge Carter did order last week was to make the dates final. Including the dates for a motion for summary judgment and the trial date.

I agree, although in his subsequent denial of Orly's request to lift the discovery stay, he said that the parties could move for extensions of time -- which would change the "final" dates.

If the Motion to dismiss is not granted, I'd think the case will be settled by summary judgment after discovery.

I agree that the case will probably be resolved on summary judgment motion if it goes forward.
243 posted on 10/14/2009 12:34:09 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: humblegunner
Barnett v Obama Pre-trial conference January 11, 2010, Trail on January 26, 2010
244 posted on 10/14/2009 12:34:54 PM PDT by SvenMagnussen (Clever tagline can only be seen on the other internet.)
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To: XenaLee
And again, why the double standard in release of records? Why did Zero seal his records? What is Zero hiding?

What double standard? Bush, McLame, Ghore, Clintoon, and Biden voluntarily released certain records, such as their college transcripts and senior thesis; but, there is no LEGAL obligation that they produce anything other than what is required in the disclosure statement under federal and state law. The only double standard is the reaction of the press, but the law itself treats everyone equal. Even the Constitution is silent as to what a candidate for POTUS needs to do to prove that he or she is qualified to serve, which is why the issue is generally addressed at the state level when the candidate's name is placed upon the ballot.

If I, as a citizen of the United States, do not have standing or a right to know the answers to any of those questions, then this country is doomed and the constitution IS just a worthless piece of paper.

You have no "right" to know what a candidate has no legal obligation to provide, and there is nothing in the Constitution that gives you that right simply because you are a citizen.

245 posted on 10/14/2009 12:37:25 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: steve-b
Hey, you got individually named while I got lumped in with "countless others who lend a hand". I'm still a bit miffed about that snub.

Steve, my man, you just have to work harder and annoy the right Birthers. Kellyna, MHGinTN, mojitojoe, little jeremiah, Uncle Chip are some of the quickest to scream "TROLL". Get on their list and I guarantee you that fame will be yours.

246 posted on 10/14/2009 12:41:40 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: IntolerantOfTreason
You’ll note he’s spending millions of dollars on hiding his birth certificate, plus the Kenyan birth certificate that Orly found, plus the forgery he presented as his COLB, plus his family members claiming he was born in Kenya.

He isn't spending dollar one of his money. Especially not to fight the myths you just mentioned.

247 posted on 10/14/2009 12:42:42 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: XenaLee
Sheesh, NS. Sometimes you can act so dense.

I dumb down to the level of my opposition sometimes.

248 posted on 10/14/2009 12:44:08 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Uncle Chip
That's why he didn't need one.

And if I did, would that mean he'd have to show one? Just because I had my doubts?

249 posted on 10/14/2009 12:45:02 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Spoken like a true liberal. OK to spend other people’s money to fight your legal battele. Is it okay for Obama to be represented by the DOJ for something he did before he was elected? OK meaning you approve of it!


250 posted on 10/14/2009 12:45:56 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the passport, school and birth records.)
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To: Lundy_s Lane II
So what do you think the founders meant by adding the requirement that the President and Vice President must be Natural Born Citizens?

That...the President had to be a natural-born citizen? Just a guess on my part.

Do you think that someone can be a Natural Born Citizen and only have 1 parent be a US Citizen?

Yes.

Do you think that someone can be a Natural Born Citizen and be born in Kenya when the law at the time did not allow the mother to pass citizenship if SAD and BHO Sr. were married.

No. But I've seen nothing proving Obama wasn't born in Hawaii so the question is irrelevant.

How can you not see that there are serious Constitutional issues with BHO’s birthplace and parents.

Because nothing in the Constitution defines natural-born citizen the way you do.

I have trouble understanding your thought process.

Maybe you just need to try harder?

251 posted on 10/14/2009 12:47:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: XenaLee
suspicion that mommie was a commie and also possibly a covert/undercover spy for the commies

?

I guess I don't know enough about Obama's mother. What information exactly would she have or have access to as a college student in Hawaii that any of America's enemies would want?
252 posted on 10/14/2009 12:48:28 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: Labyrinthos

Placed on the ballot for the general election or for the primary?

Quo Warrento is still around and Donofrio plans on filing in the DC court.

I think people tried to get the issue addressed early but BHO stonewalled and courts did not force Obama to address the issue or show his long form birth certificate.

I can’t believe that there is a 10 day period and after that we must live with the usurper.


253 posted on 10/14/2009 12:49:38 PM PDT by Lundy_s Lane II
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To: Non-Sequitur

No I consider people who are so blind to what the facts are to probley be liberals.

And what you and others do is ignore the facts, typical old guard inside the beltway republican attitude, the election is over, he won, move on.

And that is what has us in the soup we are in. You belong to the McCain/Huckabee wing, correct.


254 posted on 10/14/2009 12:49:42 PM PDT by stockpirate ("if my thought-dreams could be seen. They'd probably put my head in a guillotine" Dylan)
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To: Non-Sequitur
He isn't spending dollar one of his money. Especially not to fight the myths you just mentioned.

Slight correction. Perkins Coie did file two appellate briefs in the two Berg appeals from cases that were initiated in October and December 2008, before Obama was President.

However, except for those pre-inauguration cases, and the very few other cases filed pre-inauguration that named Obama as a defendant, the DOJ/Gov has defended against all eligibility cases (except, of course, where the courts have dismissed the case before the DOJ could enter an appearance).
255 posted on 10/14/2009 12:50:02 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: stockpirate
So your postition is it really doesn’t matter where he was born,, we should just move on and look towards the next election cycle.

No you can continue to look; I will continue to await with baited breath the time you actually come up with something. Like proof of foreign birth. Absent that I have to accept that Obama is a natural-born citizen as he claims.

256 posted on 10/14/2009 12:50:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Labyrinthos
"You have no "right" to know what a candidate has no legal obligation to provide, and there is nothing in the Constitution that gives you that right simply because you are a citizen."

You wanna bet? Watch and learn. The President of the United States has a LEGAL obligation to do as he pledged to do, preserve, protect and defend the constitution...

NOT to crap all over it, ignore it completely, or attempt to rewrite it to suit his political agenda.

"I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Now...if the President fails to do as he pledged to do, he has LEGALLY defaulted on his oath and as such, should be removed from office via impeachment at the very least. Zero has done nothing BUT crap all over the constitution in the past 8+ months. He AND the damned DemocRats. There is a solution and it WILL be implimented. Bank on it.

257 posted on 10/14/2009 12:51:15 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: nufsed
Spoken like a true liberal. OK to spend other people’s money to fight your legal battele.

One of the perks of the presidency. Sue the president and you sue the United States, so the U.S. Attorney handles the defense.

Is it okay for Obama to be represented by the DOJ for something he did before he was elected?

He wasn't sued in these cases until he was inaugurated.

258 posted on 10/14/2009 12:52:48 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
"I dumb down to the level of my opposition sometimes."

I don't know, NS. That dumbing down you do looks an awfully lot like an involuntary reflex to me. ROFLMAO!

259 posted on 10/14/2009 12:53:44 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Labyrinthos
Even the Constitution is silent as to what a candidate for POTUS needs to do to prove that he or she is qualified to serve

That is the closest thing to an actual legitimate question raised by the whole "Birther" circus.

Going back to original intent, it would seem that the Founders expected the electors to satisfy themselves that the candidate they were voting for was in fact eligible, and that the Congress would confirm the eligibility of the electoral vote recipients when the votes were counted before a joint session of Congress.

260 posted on 10/14/2009 12:54:05 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent Design -- "A Wizard Did It")
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