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Is Ed Gillespie turning Bob McDonnell against Gov. Palin?
conservatives4palin ^ | 10-09-09 | Joshua Livestro

Posted on 10/09/2009 3:34:09 PM PDT by euram

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To: SmokingJoe

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41 posted on 10/09/2009 9:29:21 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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“The media is about as relevant as tattered old shoes worn by someone for 40 years.”

REALLY?
Care to explain how an unknown candidate, with little to no legislative history, a questionable background, and ties with some of the most radical people in America defeated BOTH the Clinton Machine, AND a 30 year popular Senator/War hero, running with America’s most popular Governor, became President without even so much as a SINGLE Major Media interview of his college roommate, or a question as to ANYTHING in his background?

Care to explain how THEY were painted as idiots, while the Unknown Obama, and the Senate’s biggest goofball were portrayed as the smartest people on Earth, and the cure for all of the World’s ills?

Care to explain why E!, The View, Oprah, and others ran with pro-Obama stuff nearly every single day, for a YEAR, when McCain or any other Repub Candidate, INCLUDING Fred Thompson, couldn’t get 30 seconds on the evening news?

Care to explain why NBC/MSNBC ran the Daily Soldier Death Count EVERY SINGLE NIGHT at the end of the newscast, for years, but suddenly stopped doing that the day after Obama was elected?

Most of the Dems thought they were voting for the guy on West-Wing, and most of the sheeple thought they were voting for American Idol.

I find it to be a complete denial of reality to think the Major Media is “Dead”, when we have all the proof we need that it is far from it, in the last election, just a few months ago.

WE know the truth, we study it every day. WE know the lies, we read them, and disprove them, every single day.

As I’ve said, get out of the bubble. While I love FR, it’s just a few thousand of us, and it tends to be an echo chamber.

We now live in a media-centric society, and the sheeple are bombarded with messages, from everywhere. The MAJORITY of American Males under 30 get their primary news from THE DAILY SHOW, for chrissakes!!

You dismiss the power of proaganda at your own risk.


42 posted on 10/09/2009 9:57:28 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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Care to explain how an unknown candidate, with little to no legislative history, a questionable background, and ties with some of the most radical people in America defeated BOTH the Clinton Machine, AND a 30 year popular Senator/War hero, running with America’s most popular Governor, became President without even so much as a SINGLE Major Media interview of his college roommate, or a question as to ANYTHING in his background?”

That simply proves how irrelevant the mainstream media is. It's going to take NON mainstream media investigative journalists like Glenn Back, to help take 0bama down.
Plus, $700 million dollars in 0bama campaign money, a lot of it from outside the country, used in outspending his opponent by up to 3:1 in the home stretch of an election, plus 99% black vote, plus McCain's utter stupidity whereby he spent more time telling voters what a great guy 0bama was(His “don't worry folks, 0bama is not a dangerous guy at all”), than telling voters why they should vote for him McCain, will win a community organiser an election every time.

Care to explain how THEY were painted as idiots, while the Unknown Obama, and the Senate’s biggest goofball were portrayed as the smartest people on Earth, and the cure for all of the World’s ills?”

Irrelevant.
The mainstream media painted Reagan as an idiot too, and he won by the biggest margin in recent history, a much bigger margin that 0bama did.
McCain did everything he could to lose(including voting for a “bailout” that most voters were adamantly opposed to). Blame him.

Care to explain why E!, The View, Oprah, and others ran with pro-Obama stuff nearly every single day, for a YEAR, when McCain or any other Repub Candidate, INCLUDING Fred Thompson, couldn’t get 30 seconds on the evening news?”

So what?
They did the same kinds of stuff in 2000 and 2004, and the Democrats still got their clocks cleaned BUT GOOD!

Care to explain why NBC/MSNBC ran the Daily Soldier Death Count EVERY SINGLE NIGHT at the end of the newscast, for years, but suddenly stopped doing that the day after Obama was elected?”

Now you are starting to sound ridiculous. None of this increases the relevance of the media one bit, nor does it in any way change the fact that the influence of the media keeps diminishing every single day. The Van Jones and ACORN affairs this year, prove how the ability of the mainstream media to tightly control what the public hear or don't hear, and to exclusively influence political matters, is gone FOR GOOD!

As I’ve said, get out of the bubble. “

Naaaah.
You get ya head out of the liberal media noxious gas streams. Listen to Rush(25 million listeners) and Beck more. Their ratings are going UP, while the liberal media's continue to sink. Who is gaining influence and power here?
You are still pretending this summer never happened, and Beck didn't take down ACORN and Van Jones, even while the liberal media slept.

While I love FR, it’s just a few thousand of us, and it tends to be an echo chamber.”

Oh Puleeze!
Rush has 25 million listeners, that is more than your precious CBS news gets nightly. If Beck is put at prime time on Fox, he could at leaststart to rival Katie Couric in viewers. Who is fooling who here?

The MAJORITY of American Males under 30 get their primary news from THE DAILY SHOW, for chrissakes!!”

Question: How many people even watch The Daily Show?
And how many people listen to Limbaugh?
Which is vastly greater than the other?
You answer me that.

You dismiss the power of proaganda at your own risk.”

You ignore the sharply declining power of the mainstream media, and continue to drink Kool Aide from Keith Oberlman et all at your own risk. Your head is likely to end up getting filled with rubbish.

43 posted on 10/09/2009 10:34:50 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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“You are still pretending this summer never happened, and Beck didn’t take down ACORN and Van Jones”

I know it happened, and I also know that ACORN is still here, as are it’s associated LaRaza and SEIU orgs. Jones is still doing the same job as before, just at a different address, with a Tides/Soros-funded paycheck.

And these are MINOR victories, at best, a thorn in the side of the Socialist-in-chief, that has done nothing to stop the attacks on America’s freedoms.

And in case you haven’t heard, Fox is “Racist Hatred TV”. The View and Oprah have said so....

3.5 Million people watch Glenn Beck, less than one percent of the population. 21.6 Million watched CBS/NBC/ABC Evening News...

As I said, get out of the bubble and out in the real world.

“Question: How many people even watch The Daily Show?”
1.7 million, LAST NIGHT.

“You ignore the sharply declining power of the mainstream media”

Care to show EVIDENCE of that shrinking power??
And as far as that ass Olbermann goes, I could care less what he thinks.

DUDE, I am on YOUR SIDE, so chill with the BS. What I am trying to explain to you is that if you think the MSM’s power and reach has diminished, you are kidding yourself.


44 posted on 10/09/2009 11:04:19 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: tcrlaf
and I also know that ACORN is still here,”

So what?.
I don't care if ACORN is still there. Heck Charles Manson is still alive and eating food every day for crying out loud, but then how many people has that vermin killed in tge past 20 years?.
You are missing the point entirely with this ridiculous post.
What matters is, ACORN have been banned from participating in the census, banned from registration of voters, banned from being IRS agents, had their funds cut off by both houses of the congress, had outfits like Bank of America cut off funds to ACORN. They have been defanged. It's like a snake which has had it's poison taken away. It's still there, but its not gonna be doing any more killing by poison. And it was all done with ZERO participation by the State Run Media. It was the conservative/alternate media that took them down.
I am amazed you can't even get a simple concept like this one.

45 posted on 10/09/2009 11:16:23 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: tcrlaf
Jones is still doing the same job as before”

No he isn't.
Where do you come up with such nonsense anyway?
Jones does NOT, repeat, NOT work for the US government anymore. He does not control billions of tax payer dollars like before as the “Green Czar”. He is not paid by tax payer dollars. He does not work in a government office. Someone else will be doing the job he was doing.
Get it?

just at a different address, with a Tides/Soros-funded paycheck”

Groan!
Working for Tides Foundation is NOT the same as working for the United States Government, and controlling billions of tax payer dollars. Jones has always had ties to the Tides Foundation even when Bush was the President. Who cares?

And in case you haven’t heard, Fox is “Racist Hatred TV”. The View and Oprah have said so”

The trouble with you is, you spend your time watching junk liberal television. I don't.
Who in their right minds watch The View?
As for Oprah, her ratings have been sinking faster than the Titanic since she refused refused to let Sarah Palin appear on her program anyway.
You are not looking at the trend. Conservative news outlets are gaining viewers/listeners hands over fist, even as the liberal mainstream media continues to lose viewers everywhere. Network TV news ratings are down, CNN ratings are down, MSNBC ratings are down. Meanwhile Rush is hitting new ratings record highs, and so is Fox.

3.5 Million people watch Glenn Beck, less than one percent of the population. 21.6 Million watched CBS/NBC/ABC Evening News...”

Glenn Beck has another 9 million tuning in to his radio show.
Plus Beck appears at non-prome-time 5PM on Fox, which is when most people are not even back from work yet, and still manages to beat every single prime time program on MSNBC and CNN. Plus ABC/CBC/BC have ratings of less than 21.6 million most nights, plus you are comparing one program (Beck's) to the combined ratings of ALL 3 network news, while ignoring Hannity, O'Reilly, Greta et al, which is nonsense.
Put Beck at Prime Time and he will give Katie Couric a run for her money.

Care to show EVIDENCE of that shrinking power??”

You can start off by doing your own search..right here on FR.
There have been literally hundreds of posts here of declining circulation, profits, share price etc of newspaper after newspaper, with plenty of them closing shop.
As for the network news, their combined ratings today, is running at less than 50% what they used to be just 30 years ago, and that is with this country's population having increased by over 30% during that time span. If anything, their viewership should be up. There is graph somewhere FR about that too. Find it.
You got any more nonsensical faux figures to spew out?

46 posted on 10/10/2009 8:28:01 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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