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Mark Levin's problem with Glenn Beck ( Beck is correct about mccain )
The Week ^ | September 25th

Posted on 09/26/2009 3:11:14 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: HonestConservative
I read Mark's book and I have not heard Beck stealing information directly from it on his TV show. if this is about Cass Sunstein that info is everywhere, not just in L&T...

if you want petty how about Sean ignoring ACORN for months (on his TV show) until it heated up and Beck was getting huge Fox ratings for BigGovernment.com giving him the tapes first (even beat BOR twice) (for his radio and TV show) and suddenly Hannity got interested, had Breitbart on and said "tomorrow I get the tape first release on this program" -- so no one go them until late that night when Hannity finally went with them and what did he do? Gave it about two or three minutes and that was it, wasn't until the next afternoon that Beck really took them and delved into them (the San Diego tape)... Hannity didn't care about ACORN, if he did he would have really spent some time on it, no.. it was about beating Beck... even my very non-political husband picked up on what was going on.

Anyway, I give that antidote to mention they are all jealous and competitive... it's all the name of the game...

and Mark sort of started this before the McCain comment when he had to weigh in on some liberal publication that said Beck was the "leader of the GOP"... Mark could have just reminded people Beck isn't a Republican, but instead he had to jump in and try to pit Beck against Rush (who had just been on Beck's show)...

Mark needs to chill and stop the name-calling on his show.

201 posted on 09/26/2009 7:33:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Three if by government

Hmmm emotionally attached? I wouldn’t say that. I find him humerus and informative. And I think his 912 project is admirable..


202 posted on 09/26/2009 7:38:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Don’t listen to Sean so don’t ask me to defend him. And I don’t want petty, no.

I did not agree with Mark going public with it, but I do not blame him. If I had worked hard on something for that long, I’d be angry as heck as well, if someone used it without attribution.


203 posted on 09/26/2009 7:42:59 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Go here for FR Nat'l Convention and Tea Party Video http://vigilantsquirrelbrigade.blogspot.com)
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To: netmilsmom

I will.


204 posted on 09/26/2009 7:44:12 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Go here for FR Nat'l Convention and Tea Party Video http://vigilantsquirrelbrigade.blogspot.com)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Later.

I’m outside, away on vacation and out on the deck is the only place I can get the internet.

Its raining!

Later.


205 posted on 09/26/2009 7:46:24 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Go here for FR Nat'l Convention and Tea Party Video http://vigilantsquirrelbrigade.blogspot.com)
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To: netmilsmom

This is exactly what Beck was talking about - not only intra-conservative fighting, but also between honest Democrats and Republicans. I think Beck honestly believes that those not on the *hard left really can be brought to an agreement that what Obama’s doing is not in our country’s best interest.

I think that’s a good tack to take, because the hard left is busy playing “let’s you and him fight.”

Beck’s got a great eye for the macro view, and for tying pieces of history together. His special program on the early 20th century progressive movement was brilliant, as was his part in bringing “The 5000 Year Leap” back to the forefront after 25 years.

The first time I heard him, several years ago in Florida, he was more of the “sick, twisted freak” guy - yes, he’s intense, but I have come to believe his intentions for our country’s survival are absolutely on-track.

We need all of them.


206 posted on 09/26/2009 7:55:58 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We are all on the same side I can’t accept the premise of Becks comments I was very disappointed because he does have much inflience due to some of his great reporting some people get lazy into thinking he has all the answers and they dont have to think for themselves. I would like to hear him speak of Conservatives taking back the party for once not for me but for the drones on our side. Remember the left plays to win at all costs if we allow them to divide us now we are done and the day of communicating over sites like this are over.


207 posted on 09/26/2009 7:57:09 PM PDT by Three if by government
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To: HonestConservative

Hope it doesnt rain on our wedding day.


208 posted on 09/26/2009 7:58:12 PM PDT by Three if by government
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And all your friends and family in the military agree with you, do they?


209 posted on 09/26/2009 7:59:38 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl (G-d Bless President Bush. He kept us safe.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I agree Beck has done great work the most admirable is the actual reporting of material that most anchors would not touch. He has opened himself up to threats on levels we can only imagine.


210 posted on 09/26/2009 8:04:44 PM PDT by Three if by government
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To: netmilsmom; rockabyebaby
You can’t judge the impact of the shows by the FR threads.

Well in this I think you can, Beck has the number #1 talk thread on FR these days more often than not where previously Rush has dominated for years, why is this? Surely Beck has never mentioned FR on his T.V. or radio show, for if he had his thread numbers would probably double.

If you have millions listening to your show and you continually reference a website, it's bound to generate interest in that website and people will eventually find your thread as a result. But he hasn't yet the 1 hr Beck thread and most threads about Beck continue to generate a lot of interest.

You could dismiss it as just a cult following but it's not just an FR thing, Beck's T.V show is rising rapidly according to the cable ratings, threatening BOR's crown as #1 cable king, why is this? I imagine Beck's radio show probably is also experiencing a nice bump in his ratings due to his sudden rise in popularity, only time will tell how much, but why is this?

The sudden amount of criticism aimed at Beck from both the Left and some on the Right corresponding with the high interest that follows his FR threads from dare I say politically astute Freepers only affirms to me the impact Beck is having across the board. Beck has got his foot on the jugular of the Marxist Beast, you would expect that most conservatives would be behind him.

211 posted on 09/26/2009 8:11:18 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: Three if by government
You say you want him to speak to conservatives taking back the party, but he isn't a Republican (neither is BOR or Hannity)... what he is doing is connecting dots for people .. dots about Soros, Tides, Apollo, etc., and for people who don't sit at a computer all day he is imparting information about people like Van Jones... and, BTW it was Van Jones behind the boycott Beck movement. Jones was co-founder of Color of Change who led the boycott... they WH was calling Fox daily trying to shut Beck up about Jones before they pulled the plug and Jones stepped down...

So.. you think we should not be hearing this stuff and hearing it makes us mind-numbed robots? Then what does posting daily on FR make us?

212 posted on 09/26/2009 8:17:27 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: whatisthetruth

Not if the people on the Beck thread are fun, welcoming and vibrant.
Or if the people on the Levin thread are snootie and unwelcoming.

People will forget one thread or another if they don’t feel welcome.


213 posted on 09/26/2009 8:30:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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To: floriduh voter

I remember when Glenn interviewed Sarah Palin some time before she was picked to be McCain’s VP. Rush, Beck, Levin and Hannity - love ‘em all.


214 posted on 09/26/2009 8:59:58 PM PDT by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. And NEVER GIVE UP!)
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To: netmilsmom

Eating OUR own...That is what threw me off. I am sorry if I was out of line. It was a substantive reply, if maybe aimed at the wrong person.

It just seems that the “eating of our own” is mainly the party trying to eat Beck. In my eyes, he is doing what he can, fighting the good fight. I think if someone is really worried about the state of the country, they would want THINGS to work out, NOT power for OUR friends.


215 posted on 09/26/2009 9:01:57 PM PDT by runninglips (It was just time for this to come to a head.....)
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To: runninglips

That’s all they are, political party whores. There’s no difference whatsoever between Hannity/Levin whoring for the GOP and Olbermann whoring for the DNC except ideaology. Rush was falling into that trap for awhile as well during the Bush years, which made his “I quit carrying the water” show the day after the 2006 elections such a great moment for someone like me who listened to Rush religiously during the Clinton years and wondered what happened. I’ll take Beck and Savage any day of the week, even if Savage is talking about his dog.


216 posted on 09/26/2009 9:04:31 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: svcw; RAO1125

It means conservatives that don’t back RINOs. Pretty damn simple to me. RAO1125 is correct. The rest of you people that think McCain would have been Obama-lite are mistaken. That guy is a loose cannon. At least with Obama we want be getting the knife stuck in our back...it’s all in the open for all to see.


217 posted on 09/26/2009 9:04:48 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: JLS

You are dead wrong and 5 and 7. We probably would have it them by now.


218 posted on 09/26/2009 9:07:06 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: bobby.223

The difference is, Rush revolutionized talk radio. But Beck’s ascension is coming at a time in American history where we stand on the edge of global socialism. I sortof view Rush as like a five star general in the Pentagon who draws up detailed plans... while Beck is the freshly minted General who is leading the charge on the ground and taking no prisoners.


219 posted on 09/26/2009 9:11:04 PM PDT by RAO1125 (Revolution's are for Marxists. We need a Constitutional Restoration)
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To: HonestConservative
If I had worked hard on something for that long, I’d be angry as heck as well, if someone used it without attribution.

As best I can tell, the argument is that Beck used the same two Cass Sunstein quotes, in the same order, as Mark used in L&T. If I remember my college English courses correctly, I was always taught to use primary sources if they are readily available rather than attributing the secondary sources. Why? To be absolutely certain that the information is accurate AND so that it is easily verifiable for the reader.

It certainly is much more authoritative to state "this info was written by Cass Sunstein himself" rather than Mark Levin says this is what Cass Sunstein said.

220 posted on 09/26/2009 9:12:19 PM PDT by Dianna
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