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I'm looking for insider information here, not just wild speculation (although that could be fun).

Is it in any way tied to the "McCain campaign insiders" who provided lies and misinformation to Vanity Fair for the hit piece on Sarah Palin?

Is this person or persons guilty of any other intra-party/conservative movement dirty tricks and shananigans?

I want to know because life is much safer when you know who you enemies are before they strike.

Thanks,

1 posted on 08/27/2009 10:21:55 AM PDT by TexasGunRunner
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Romney has never had a problem with torpedoing fellow GOPers. Just look at what he did to Steve Forbes in 1996.

Gee, doesn't that language echo the type of class warfare arguments that Ted Kennedy et al. were so good at employing? Never trust Mitt Romney.

43 posted on 08/27/2009 10:53:44 AM PDT by ReagansRaiders (Bob McDonnell for (Virginia) Governor - 2009)
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I dunno why, but I really liked Fred. I was hoping to vote for him in the primary, but he was basically out by the time Texas got to vote.


47 posted on 08/27/2009 10:57:19 AM PDT by Tolsti2
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Fred! was my pick, but I must say:

Although it’s possible he was hurt by a false rumor in Iowa, his dispirited campaign up to that point provided a factual underpinning for any such rumor.

Unfortunately, a “front porch” campaign like McKinley’s can’t work today, 99% of the time anyway. I don’t blame smart people for not wanting to spend 18 months of 18-hour days doing fundraising and speeches just to get (and then stay) in office, so we tend to get the sort of ...person ... who DOESN’T mind.


51 posted on 08/27/2009 11:03:20 AM PDT by pogo101
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Romney’s people did the rumor thing but that is not what killed him in Iowa. The big thing is that Huckabee took Iowa. And he did it by organizing better at the grass roots level. The Huckster turned out church networks and homeschoolers who drummed up support for him and mobilized all of their friends and family. In the Iowa Cacus all you needed to do was bring your extended family with you to a precinct. For any given one you only needed to win 10 or 20 extra votes to win. So if you call up all your aunts and uncles that were not planning to go, and talk to people in your church, or local homeschool support group then you are good to go. It pisses me off off to admit it, as a homeschool grad and Fred supporter, but what won it for the Huckster in Iowa was 100% to homeschooler & church networks. My wife and I were there and voted for Fred so this is not speculation.


68 posted on 08/27/2009 11:45:47 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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who did it?

Fred, himself. His heart wasn't into running.

Beyond that, Romney is always a prime suspect to stab another candidate in the back.

91 posted on 08/27/2009 1:26:58 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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Fred Thompson angered social conservatives by saying he didn’t attend church very often. James Dobson of Focus on the Family criticized him for it. Fred responsed by saying he didn’t care what James Dobson thinks. As a result, social cosnervatives rallied around Huckabee. Social conservatives can be real prima donnas.


92 posted on 08/27/2009 1:33:05 PM PDT by DanZanRyu
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Fred was only there to take votes away from Romney for McCain. But something happened...Huckabee started taking votes from both and even Fred.

So Fred did his job and at least took enough conservative votes to water down Mitt and Mike and let Juan McLame win the nomination and start losing the race. Only when he picked Palin did his numbers go up (and his money) and he got close. But then he pulled a Senator thing and went to “fix the economy” and looked like the fool that he is.


93 posted on 08/27/2009 1:36:36 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Welcome to the USSA: United Socialist States of America: Bow to The Obama!)
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FWIW and IMO only, Romney was set to win the Iowa “caucus” until Huckabee came into the state and swept the Christian vote from both Romney and Fred Thompson.


96 posted on 08/27/2009 1:41:40 PM PDT by elizabethgrace (ObamaÂ’s Deficit Projections Assume That He & Congress Will Stop Spending)
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Not likely McCain. In withdrawing, Thompson threw his support behind McCain. They’d been colleagues in the Senate. Whatever can be said of him, backstabbing isn’t his style ... he’ll attack frontally. THO, he had some pretty nasty staffers, ask Gov Palin.


123 posted on 08/27/2009 4:46:38 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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We are in a battle for the future of this country, and you want to rehash old facts? I wanted Fred too, but this is a waste of time. Let go and move forward.


131 posted on 08/27/2009 5:02:55 PM PDT by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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Here in Iowa, we heard several rumors as to who started it. Nothing was able to be substantiated by any sources I trust.


136 posted on 08/27/2009 5:39:33 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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Was that the one where Mitt’s people were bussed in or something?


146 posted on 08/27/2009 9:04:39 PM PDT by Califreak (If it's Astroturf, why are you trying to mow it?(sign seen at a town hall meeting))
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Poor sport spoiler Romney doing what he does best:

Novak: "Fred Thompson drop-out rumors traced to Romney campaign"

Said Novak: "The rumors were traced in part to Mitt Romney's campaign,
trying to stir up strife between McCain and Thompson
."

"Despite outspending his rivals by huge margins throughout the primaries,
(Mitt Romney, Carpetbagger UT,CA,MA,NH,Mexico) lost Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and California.
The only primaries he won were in Michigan, where Dad was governor; LDS states;
and a few states on Super Tuesday in which his California-obsessed rivals
couldn't spare the cash to advertise.
Only John Connolly in 1968 had a worse cash-to-delegates ratio.
And John McCain rightly did not like Romney's tactics during the primaries.
(W)hen (Romney's early leads) started slipping away, he resorted to unfair,
distorted, scorched-earth negative ads, betting that his opponents couldn't
afford to spend enough for the truth to catch up to his charges."

[Romney: A Mistake for McCain, 7/23/2008, Dick Morris]

150 posted on 08/28/2009 1:07:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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