Glenn Beck's fear of Obama: Seize power overnight

WorldNetDaily ^ | August 26, 2009 | Joe Kovacs

[Uri’el-2012]

I fear this government, this administration has so much framework already prepared, that they will seize power overnight before anybody even gives it a second thought," Beck said.

It took Hitler from February 27 1933 to March 23, 1933 to take dictatorial power.

[GreyMountainReagan]

Hope your not correct. The first sign will be large scale power and communication blackouts.

Why do you need communication blackouts?

Media is in tank for 0bama.

I think it would be 100% alphabet soup news 24/7.

[Talisker]

...their conquering of Amerika and sweeping away the Old Republic will hear mostly 'feed us' rather than free us.

Well said, and frightening. Though I believe the path will not be as smooth as you describe, expecially now since awareness of this sort of plan is going through the roof.

In any event, it's looking pretty apparent we're going to all get to find out for real how far the whole thing is going to go.

May God protect America.

[nathanbedford]

He needs the support of the U.S. MILITARY.

How you gonna argue with that???

By arguing that Obama does not need the support of the US military, he needs the support of only a portion of the US military. Or, alternatively

He does not need the support of the US military he needs only the passivity of the US military while his extra military forces lockdown for him. Or, alternatively

He does not need the passivity of the whole of the US military but only the passivity of a portion of the US military at a few key strategic choke points. Or, alternatively

He operates under a patina of authority during crisis, (terrorist strike on the homeland or economic collapse) perhaps a national referendum, perhaps a rigged national convention, which gives him authority to suspend the Constitution and operate by Fiat, which only need be persuasive and plausible enough to permit the military to support him or remain passive.

If your salvation to protect us from an in-house coup is the US military, you're relying on one of the finest institutions in the entire world, but one with absolutely no experience in these kinds of affairs except as occurred in 1861 and you might be aware that the US military was hardly of one mind.

My heart is always cheered to hear absolutist affirmations of how the military will operate and how the stock market will behave from people who have no more credentials to judge than I do.

[Shadowstrike]

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!

[21twelve]

Here’s an old thread on an even older booklet: “The Revolution Was”, written in 1937 about FDR and the New Deal. It is ALL happening again.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

Then from the point of view of scientific revolutionary technic what would the problems be? They set themselves down in sequence as follows:
The first, naturally, would be to capture the seat of government.

The second would be to seize economic power.

The third would be to mobilize by propaganda the forces of hatred.

The fourth would he to reconcile and then attach to the revolution the two great classes whose adherence is indispensable but whose interests are economically antagonistic, namely, the industrial wage earners and the farmers, called in Europe workers and peasants.

The fifth would be what to do with business whether to liquidate or shackle it.

(These five would have a certain imperative order in time and require immediate decisions because they belong to the program of conquest. That would not be the end. What would then ensue? A program of consolidation. Under that head the problems continue.)

The sixth, in Burckhardt’s devastating phrase, would be “the domestication of individuality” by any means that would make the individual more dependent upon government.

The seventh would be the systematic reduction of all forms of rival authority.

The eighth would be to sustain popular faith in an unlimited public debt, for if that faith should break the government would be unable to borrow, if it could not borrow it could not spend, and the revolution must be able to borrow and spend the wealth of the rich or else it will be bankrupt.

The ninth would be to make the government itself the great capitalist and enterpriser, so that the ultimate power in initiative would pass from the hands of private enterprise to the all-powerful state.

Each one of these problems would have two sides, one the obverse and one the reverse, like a coin. One side only would represent the revolutionary intention. The other side in each case would represent Recovery and that was the side the New Deal constantly held up to view. Nearly everything it did was in the name of Recovery. But in no case was it true that for the ends of economic recovery alone one solution or one course and one only was feasible. In each case there was an alternative and therefore a choice to make.

What we shall see is that in every case the choice was one that could not fail:

(a) To ramify the authority and power of executive government its power, that is, to rule by decrees and rules and regulations of its own making; (b) To strengthen its hold upon the economic life of the nation; (c) To extend its power aver the individual; (d) To degrade the parliamentary principle; (e) To impair the great American tradition of an independent, Constitutional judicial power; (f) To weaken all other powers the power of private enterprise, the power of private finance, the power of state and local government; (g) To exalt the leader principle.

There was endless controversy as to whether the acts of the New Deal did actually move recovery or retard it, and nothing final could ever come of that bitter debate because it is forever impossible to prove what might have happened in place of what did. But a positive result is obtained if you ask:

Where was the New Deal going?

The answer to that question is too obvious to be debated. Every choice it made, whether it was one that moved recovery or not, was a choice unerringly true to the essential design of totalitarian government, never of course called by that name either here or anywhere else.

[El Gato]

If that’s what they want, I’m sure our military will be glad to oblige. Honduras ring a bell?

The Constitution of Honduras provides for what they did. IIRC, so does that of Turkey, only the Turk military doesn't have to wait for directions from the Legislature or anyone else.

Ours does not. It does require all officer to take an oath to support the Constitution. The actual oath they take requires them to support AND defend, against all enemies foreign AND Domestic.

[El Gato]

what if the gasoline supplies were suddenly accidentally blown up by a “mistake”...leaving an entire nation high and dry....

That would be a cute trick. Considering that there are refineries all across the Country. Philadelphia is pretty big on the upper east coast. California has both refineries, and oil. Texas has a shitpot full (A precise technical term in engineering circles) of refineries and lots of its own oil. We have oil under one of our houses. It doesn't belong to us though, as the mineral rights did not come with the property. :(. The actual wells and pumps are few blocks away.

[El Gato]

But I believe the EMP must be set off at high altitude and requires a tremendous amount of energy (i.e. a nuke).

That turns out not to be the case. Ask Saddam... oh wait, he was hung. But we did do a number on his grid.

A Doctrine for the Use of ElectroMagnetic Pulse Bombs

The Electromagnetic Bomb - a Weapon of Electrical Mass Destruction

True, conventionally powered EMP weapons are not as powerful as a nuclear high altitude burst. But since they can only affect a much smaller area, they need not be detonated at extremely high altitude either. (To some extent a nulcear EMP device must be at high altitude to get the maximum EMP effect, but a conventional one does it all on it's own).

[east1234]

Wow, ok, if this is the future, it's not but if it is, what about the 10’s of millions of conservative gun owners? These scenarios are not possible with a populace as heavily armed as ours. Might the libs want this? Some of them may. But libs don't have the balls for it and will never be able to hire enough “henchmen” to face down armed American citizens.

[SE Mom]

Thought of your post this morning when I saw this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090827/wl_nm/us_colombia_chavez_campaign

Billboards popping up against Chavez!

[MHGinTN]

ENJOY YOURS YOU FEEL MORE SECURE TO BELIEVE THAT< ENJOY YOUR SCENARIO> Frankly, the number of guns in private citizens’ hands has little to do with people giving up their freedom for food and fuel. But if I go any further with the scenario I might make you uncomfortable so I’ll leave it at that.

[RinaseaofDs]

On Drudge:

BILL WOULD GIVE OBAMA ‘EMERGENCY’ CONTROL OF INTERNET

[east1234]

OK, my scenerio is none of this paranoid stuff comes to fruition and obama/dems get neutered in the 2010 midterms. Then obama heads home to Chicago in 2012, a complete and utter failure. Now I may be wrong, but the odds of my scenerio occurring are hundreds of times higher than are the odds of, an end to elections, obama president for life, conservatives sent to re-education camps, etc.
With that said, obamas election is the fault of the MSM. If they would report the news in an un-biased fashion these commies wouldn’t be in power.

[MHGinTN]

And what magic will cause the fifth column enemedia to change and not be the propaganda arm of the demcorap party? Do you see the contradictions in your own assertion?

[MHGinTN]

Http://porchmaunderings.blogspot.com Avail yourself of the links ont he right of the pag, especially ‘The American Thinker’

[east1234]

No contradiction at all. As someone above said there a 60 million reasons this won’t happen, but it won’t even get that far, as I previously stated. My point on the MSM is that we need to do something about them, as they allowed these freaks to gain power. The MSM is the bigger threat to the American people. The commies never should have gotten elected, they only represent less than 20% of the population, yet the MSM carried their water, buried negatives and are generally in bed with the hard left/commies/progressives/whatever the hell you want to call them. The media needs to be severely punished, what they have done amounts to treason.

[east1234]

“There are plenty who would live for a Obama police state to be enacted, just for the personal power”

Authoritarian personalities are drawn to LE. Fortunately law enforcement is badly out numbered by just plain old American gun owners. Anyway, obama gets neutered in the 2010 midterms and all this is moot.

[MHGinTN]

I fully agree regarding the media, but does anyone even know how to make a good guillotine any more?

[CPT Clay]

Honestly the way things are going if Beck and Limbaugh disappeared I would not be shocked.

That is the tripwire.

Release the dogs of war.