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Ermey Says He’ll 'Square Away' Birthers
Military.com ^ | 8-21-2009 | Military.com|by Bryant Jordan

Posted on 08/25/2009 4:45:39 PM PDT by AZ .44 MAG

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To: Pyro7480

I would hope so. That’s the way I feel about it.


181 posted on 08/25/2009 8:49:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (January 20th, 2013)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Good, then we actually are arguing for no reason. ;-)


182 posted on 08/25/2009 8:52:02 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: trumandogz
If a person wants to run for the highest public office in the land, they should be prepared to make their life history public. If that is to high of a bar for them they should remain in private life. I don't think we will have any shortage of people qualified for the job seeking the office. If obama is any indication of what we can get by lowering the requirements...well...I rest my case
183 posted on 08/25/2009 8:53:57 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: imahawk
The Gunny respects the constitutuion...

Do you know that for a fact? Has the Gunny ever even looked at it? I doubt it but even if he could quote it Article by Article, if Obama is legal is not the call of someone in uniform. The job is to follow legal orders --- period.

If the One is legally CiC is not a military man's decision. A soldiers oath is to follow legal orders and not to interpret the constitution or investigate the background of civil leaders. If Obama is shown to be inneligable, it would be a political process to address that, but the military should stay the hell away from it.

Barracks lawyers are not a good thing.

184 posted on 08/25/2009 9:08:46 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: El Sordo

Does it bother you that there is no authority to support what you say?


185 posted on 08/25/2009 9:20:58 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: plain talk

So you think that Nuremberg was a mistake?


186 posted on 08/25/2009 9:24:04 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Ditto

Hey buddy,Gunny is a civialian now and has been since he retired out of the Corps back in the seventies.Where does your doubt come from concerning the Gunnys understanding of the Constitution?He was also sworn(as well as those currently serving) to serve and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC.Since the civilian gubmint of which you speak so highly of wont investigate the eligibility maybe the military should.Have a nice evening.


187 posted on 08/25/2009 9:24:36 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: El Sordo

There seems to be evidence that his father was not an American citizen.


188 posted on 08/25/2009 9:25:30 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: ASA Vet

Exactly right


189 posted on 08/25/2009 9:27:46 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: El Gato

Not according to the recent decision by the 10th Circuit.


190 posted on 08/25/2009 9:39:56 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Brytani

Well he had all of his operatives file a document on line and claim it was his birth certificate when it was not. There would seem to be something wrong with that.


191 posted on 08/25/2009 9:44:56 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Pyro7480

If he were found to have engaged in a massive fraud about his eligibility by a court would it not upset and even undo much of his agenda?


192 posted on 08/25/2009 9:46:49 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Ditto

That’s what the defendants said at Nuremberg.


193 posted on 08/25/2009 9:48:01 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: imahawk

Some info :

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0oGkxBiu5RKmd0AqJhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByYWZxb2M3BHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA3NrMQR2dGlkAw—/SIG=11tr10bp4/EXP=1251347682/**http%3a//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey

Years of service 1961–1972 medically retired in 1972 for several injuries incurred during his tours.

On May 17, 2002 he received a promotion to Gunnery Sergeant (E-7) from the Commandant of the Marine Corps (later Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR)) United States Marine Corps General James L. Jones, becoming the first retired military member in the history of the United States Marine Corps to be promoted.


194 posted on 08/25/2009 10:06:28 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: AmericanVictory
Not according to the recent decision by the 10th Circuit.

Can you be more specific. I don't know which part of my post you are responding to. A link to or the name of 10th Circuit case would be nice as well.

195 posted on 08/25/2009 10:41:29 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SUSSA
That's the first time I've heard that one. You guys are really stretching to come up with that. She thinks she's boy-Barock's grandmother but she really isn't. She's just some woman his grandfather was married to.

She's a step grandmother sort of, and the one of BHO's grandfather's wives who raised BHO Sr after BHO senior's mother left the old reprobate.

196 posted on 08/25/2009 10:44:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: AZ .44 MAG
He made a point of telling me that he couldn't be POTUS. I may not even be eligible by some of the stricter interpretations I've seen here. I also wouldn't want to be. I am not qualified although if thrust into the role I would do my best.

Born in the US and both parents citizens, even if dual? Then you are eligible.

197 posted on 08/25/2009 10:59:33 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: SUSSA
She's just some woman his grandfather was married to.

It's the literal truth. She is not Barry's *biological* grandmother, but rather another wife of his biological grandfather. Many Kenyans are Muslim, and their law, even under the British, allow(ed) for mulitiple wives.

However she did raise BHO Sr from an early age when his biological mother left his father.

198 posted on 08/25/2009 11:17:28 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: BnBlFlag
You obviously weren’t in the Marine Corps.

But I myself was "squared away" by a Marine Major when I was a 2nd Lt, for not saluting him, while under a canopy outside a classroom building. As it turns out, he was wrong, I was right. Not that it helped any at the time. Some customs and courtesies are different between the Army/Air Force and the Navy/Marines. This was one of them, and we were on Wright-Patterson AFB, both attending the School of Systems and Logistics. (I think that's what it was called, it's been almost 36 years.) I don't know, but I suspect he was in the grad school, I was just there for a short course in Reliability Engineering. Saw "American Graffiti" for the first time at the base theater, with a classmate who was just enough older to be the age of the characters, and was from that part of California.

Besides, an E6, Marine or not, would not "square away" an O4, except in private. Bad for good order and discipline otherwise.

199 posted on 08/25/2009 11:27:06 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Ditto
A soldiers oath is to follow legal orders and not to interpret the constitution or investigate the background of civil leaders

My oath had nothing in it about obeying orders. Just "support and defend" and "execute the duties of the office". Neither did that of Major Cook.

Besides, what are legal orders? Who decides?

Since I gave the briefing, back in the day, I'll tell you. The individual does, no one is going to say "this is an illegal order and you should not obey it" and even if someone does say that, you still have to decide if it's true. Of course you'd best be very certain of your conclusion. Because whichever way you decide, you are responsible, under the law, including the UCMJ, for that decision. Obeying an unlawful order is itself unlawful. "I was just following orders" is not an excuse.

200 posted on 08/25/2009 11:34:26 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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