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NJ Rep Adler (D) Will Vote AGAINST Health Care Bill
NJ Rep John Adler | August 9, 2009 | New Cruelty

Posted on 08/09/2009 6:06:55 PM PDT by new cruelty

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To: sonic109
Here is the link to the House Bill which is what most people and “list” talk about.

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf

In regards to this Section starting on page 353, here is the cut and paste (hope it works - the numbers at the side are “line numbers” for ease of finding info)

The ending is where the Government will decide on the plan for special needs people (emphasis mine):

13 PART 3—TREATMENT OF SPECIAL NEEDS PLANS
14 SEC. 1176. LIMITATION ON ENROLLMENT OUTSIDE OPEN
15 ENROLLMENT PERIOD OF INDIVIDUALS INTO
16 CHRONIC CARE SPECIALIZED MA PLANS FOR
17 SPECIAL NEEDS INDIVIDUALS.
18 Section 1859(f)(4) of the Social Security Act (42
19 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(4)) is amended by adding at the end
20 the following new subparagraph:
21 ‘‘(C) The plan does not enroll an individual
22 on or after January 1, 2011, other than during
23 an annual, coordinated open enrollment period
24 or when at the time of the diagnosis of the dis
25 ease or condition that qualifies the individual as

1 an individual described in subsection
2 (b)(6)(B)(iii).’’.
3 SEC. 1177. EXTENSION OF AUTHORITY OF SPECIAL NEEDS
4 PLANS TO RESTRICT ENROLLMENT.
5 (a) IN GENERAL.—Section 1859(f)(1) of the Social
6 Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(1)) is amended by
7 striking ‘‘January 1, 2011’’ and inserting ‘‘January 1,
8 2013 (or January 1, 2016, in the case of a plan described
9 in section 1177(b)(1) of the America’s Affordable Health
10 Choices Act of 2009)’’.
11 (b) GRANDFATHERING OF CERTAIN PLANS.—
12 (1) PLANS DESCRIBED.—For purposes of sec
13 tion 1859(f)(1) of the Social Security Act (42
14 U.S.C. 1395w–28(f)(1)), a plan described in this
15 paragraph is a plan that had a contract with a State
16 that had a State program to operate an integrated
17 Medicaid-Medicare program that had been approved
18 by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services as
19 of January 1, 2004.
20 (2) ANALYSIS; REPORT.—The Secretary of
21 Health and Human Services shall provide, through
22 a contract with an independent health services eval
23 uation organization, for an analysis of the plans de
24 scribed in paragraph (1) with regard to the impact
25 of such plans on cost, quality of care, patient satis-

1 faction, and other subjects as specified by the Sec
2 retary. Not later than December 31, 2011, the Sec
3 retary shall submit to Congress a report on such
4 analysis and shall include in such report such rec
5 ommendations with regard to the treatment of such
6 plans as the Secretary deems appropriate.

121 posted on 08/10/2009 8:28:52 AM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: new cruelty
That is a sound policy. I'm guessing that these congressmen have quite a few bills to vote on- so it may be physically impossible for one person to read line by line each and every bill. Still, it would help to be familiar with the more salient points of each bill.

The answer to this dilemma is simple, they should not vote on any bill that they haven't read, or they vote no on it if it comes up for a vote. I don't care how many bills are shoved in front of a congress critter, if they haven't read it then the right thing to do is vote it down.

122 posted on 08/10/2009 8:51:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Tatze

I was thanks.


123 posted on 08/10/2009 9:11:42 AM PDT by Hang'emAll
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To: new cruelty

Thank you. I have to inform his own staff that his position on the health care bill has changed from not having made a decision as of last Thursday to a no vote as of Saturday.

They seem not to know this.


124 posted on 08/10/2009 9:28:45 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA-OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: darkwing104

Him and Colin Peterson from MN.

2 down 37 to go.


125 posted on 08/10/2009 9:30:21 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: 101voodoo
They seem not to know this.

That doesn't sound good. His website notes that he is against a single payer system, but it doesn't just plainly state that he will vote against the bill- at least not as plainly as he stated it last Saturday. It will be interesting to see how he would flip on the issue.

126 posted on 08/10/2009 9:37:51 AM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Near Stone Harbor?


127 posted on 08/10/2009 9:41:27 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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To: new cruelty
Adler is worried about losing his seat.

NJ is going Republican this Nov in the governors race.

He does not want to be linked to this health care issue.

128 posted on 08/10/2009 9:44:48 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: mware
NJ is going Republican this Nov in the governors race.

That is very optimistic. I know it's not outside the realm of possibilities, but I don't see NJ democrats voting for a republican. Something will happen between now and election day to change the tide. The dems will drop corzine and run someone else against Christie. The media will dig up or make up dirt or blow out of proportion anything that could be considered dirt on Christie. The media will give positive spin about some miniscule democrat sponsored action. Polls will begin to shift, showing the underdog dem closing the gap on the hapless republican. And people will once again be convinced that they must vote against the evil GOP.

I've been here since 2002 and have met many good and interesting folk. What I find most interesting is how they can consistently convince themselves to vote democrat despite their continuous chorus of complaints regarding high taxes, poorly run government, corruption, etc. Hopefully I will be proven wrong.

129 posted on 08/10/2009 9:55:57 AM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: new cruelty

Actually I think we have a chance of winning it. That is if we can get the votes to counteract the votes that will be bussed in from PA and NY.


130 posted on 08/10/2009 9:59:52 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: new cruelty

I called his Marlton NJ office (856 985 2777) and spoke to a woman named Hope who handles the Health care thing and she said he was NOT voting for it “in it’s present for”. When i asked her his position on health care for illegals he said he was opposed to it for all “non citizens.

She also said the current HC legislation contains a specific exclusion for health care for illegal aliens. Is this true?


131 posted on 08/10/2009 10:10:37 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA-OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: 101voodoo
She also said the current HC legislation contains a specific exclusion for health care for illegal aliens. Is this true?

I have not read the bill. At the meeting, Adler did say that he was opposed to health care for illegals but did not specify if the current health bill excluded illegals.

“in it’s present form”.

That is my concern. What would it take for him to vote in favor of the bill? That is a question that was not posed at the meeting.

132 posted on 08/10/2009 10:17:40 AM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: 101voodoo

And thank you for being persistent in calling for clarification!


133 posted on 08/10/2009 10:18:18 AM PDT by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: new cruelty

I explained I knew Mr Adler had won a seat that had been rep since dirt was discovered and if he did not want to be a “one and done” Congressman he would vote AGAINST this bill untill ALL of us knew precisely what was in it and EXACTLY how much it would cost AND how it would be paid for.


134 posted on 08/10/2009 10:39:43 AM PDT by 101voodoo (OBAMA-OPIATE FOR THE DUMB ASSES)
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To: new cruelty

Kudos to Adler then!


135 posted on 08/10/2009 8:42:47 PM PDT by Ballygrl
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To: new cruelty

Sorry Rover, but your blue status won’t save you come 2010!


136 posted on 08/10/2009 8:44:30 PM PDT by Illinois is a Red State
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To: new cruelty

Hide and watch!

He will vote against it then change his vote later!

I called it first!


137 posted on 08/10/2009 8:48:54 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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To: Randy Larsen

Not that is helped, but he voted against it last night.


138 posted on 11/08/2009 5:37:33 AM PST by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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To: new cruelty

If they needed his vote, he would have voted against it. We need to get rid of everyone of these Dems including the so called “blue dogs.”


139 posted on 11/08/2009 5:40:00 AM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: new cruelty

How did he vote last night?


140 posted on 11/08/2009 5:40:04 AM PST by uncitizen (I'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take it anymore!!)
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