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Bush Quietly Saved a Million African Lives (Yet he is being criticized by both the left & the right)
NC Register ^ | 7/31/2009 | Paul Kengor

Posted on 08/04/2009 6:50:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Moonman62

Agreed. Charity based on borrowed money harms as much as it helps. The sad, and simple truth, is that the only way to really fix Africas AIDS problem is monogamy. Something the Africans seem unable to grasp.


21 posted on 08/04/2009 7:21:37 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: dools007
Blaming President Bush for Obama is ludicrous and completely historically and factually inaccurate.

BDS is moronic.

22 posted on 08/04/2009 7:21:48 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: RKV
There is no way in all the earth that the money spent in Africa preventing mass deaths and chaos hurt Americans as much as it helped Africans.

In addition, the stabilization of African countries prevented more terrorist hotbeds from developing.

I don't think you have any idea how catastrophic the situation was in Africa and how much this aid helped.

23 posted on 08/04/2009 7:25:08 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let Republican and Democrat politicians show their compassion with their own money.

Africa is a bottomless pit and it only delays the inevitable to sink billions of dollars extorted from American taxpayers into feel good programs.


24 posted on 08/04/2009 7:25:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Win the War On Poverty - Stop bringing in foreign reinforcements for the other side.)
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To: ohioWfan
The situation in Africa was dire and deadly from a humanitarian standpoint - nothing even close here in America - and in addition our national security interests were involved in keeping African countries stable.

Just curious, who do you respond to some libertarian argument that says it is NOT the government's job to take tax payer money to fund humanitarian aid to other countries?

They argue that this amounts to charity BY FORCE.

It is INDIVIDUALS in society who GIVE out of their own generosity who must do this.
25 posted on 08/04/2009 7:26:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: ohioWfan

Me too!

I get so very tired of that cloud of worry over my head nowadays.

I knew the country was in good hands with George Bush.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 7:26:39 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: SeekAndFind
"Credit should be given where credit is due -- "
I agree. It should be given to President Bush for using "OUR MONEY" to help others in need, as opposed to the current President using our money for payoffs and kickbacks.
27 posted on 08/04/2009 7:27:53 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I didn’t agree with everything that he did, I truly miss having him in the White House. I am hopeful that history will remember him as a president who protected this nation in its darkest hours and who carried himself, at all times, with the dignity and humility that the office demands. He may not go down in history as the greatest president this nation as ever had, but as far as I’m concerned he is one of the finest men to have ever worked in the oval office.


28 posted on 08/04/2009 7:29:44 AM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: dools007
Because of Bush and his father we now have a Marxist sitting in the WH.

I want to go to Bizzaro World too!

29 posted on 08/04/2009 7:32:14 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SeekAndFind

While I didn’t agree with everything that he did, I truly miss having him in the White House. I am hopeful that history will remember him as a president who protected this nation in its darkest hours and who carried himself, at all times, with the dignity and humility that the office demands. He may not go down in history as the greatest president this nation as ever had, but as far as I’m concerned he is one of the finest men to have ever worked in the oval office.


30 posted on 08/04/2009 7:33:09 AM PDT by frankiep (Ron Paul was right)
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To: dools007
Oh please! Because of Bush and his father we now have a Marxist sitting in the WH.

Exactly. If Republicans are going to behave like Democrats, people are going to eliminate the middle man and vote for Democrats.

31 posted on 08/04/2009 7:34:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: astyanax

(Unless, of course, we also want to take credit for the billions of dollars of our money going to ACORN, etc.)


32 posted on 08/04/2009 7:37:19 AM PDT by astyanax (I'm here to spread peace, love and happiness... so get the f*#% out of my way.)
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To: ohioWfan

I’ve been to Africa briefly. I understand the situation to at least a limited extent. I stand with many, including Africans, who believe that the right thing to do in Africa’s case, is to stop subsidizing behaviors that are dysfunctional. I wonder if you understand the situation here at home to the same level? Owing the Chinese money is not a good thing. Importing goods that we should be able to make at home at a competitive price is not a good thing. Zero is out to do some real damage to America, and we need to focus here. Rolling back job killing regulations and defeating cap and trade is a start, along with closing our borders and preventing the passage of socialized medicine. We’ve got our hands full. The rest of the world is going to have to help themselves for a while.


33 posted on 08/04/2009 7:37:56 AM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: SeekAndFind
Did Bono ever thank the American taxpayer ? After all, it is our money that goes to help Africa.

The beauty of this particular initiative is that it not only has a proper moral aspect, but it's also good policy in and of itself: saving lives in Africa now, will almost certainly end up saving us money and trouble in the future. In that sense, it's more like an investment.

34 posted on 08/04/2009 7:44:44 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: dools007
I can tell you this, that will not happen—again....

Yawn.....

35 posted on 08/04/2009 7:45:49 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: SeekAndFind
With amazing quickness, just four weeks later, Bush inked a $15-billion plan

The last I read, the price tag is up to $45 billion, even though the original $15 billion was supposed to save money.

36 posted on 08/04/2009 7:46:42 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: dools007

And to think, we could all be missing Gore or Kerry. Get some help.


37 posted on 08/04/2009 7:52:37 AM PDT by Gator113 (It's about stupidity, stupid. IMPEACH HERE, IMPEACH NOW.)
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To: dools007
Because of Bush and his father we now have a Marxist sitting in the WH.

I guess the stupid voters didn't have a say in electing Zero.....

38 posted on 08/04/2009 7:54:55 AM PDT by SteamShovel (When hope trumps reality, there is no hope at all.)
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To: r9etb
The beauty of this particular initiative is that it not only has a proper moral aspect

The money and the drugs probably did very little. My guess is that an attitude shift came to Africa. Before it was that "Men will be men" and nothing can be done about it. Now, it is likely to be, something can be done about it "Men Behave!".

Oh, if only our own nation would repent "Thou shalt not commit adultery" is not just an option.

39 posted on 08/04/2009 7:55:15 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
What if a president, on his own initiative, under no demands from staff or from supporters or opponents, set out to spend an unprecedented amount of money on AIDS in Africa, literally billions of dollars, at a time when the nation could not afford it, citing his faith as a primary motivation and, ultimately, saved more than a million lives? Wouldn't the story be front-page news, especially in top, liberal newspapers? Wouldn't it lead on CNN, MSNBC and the "CBS Evening News"? ...It all began in January 2003, during the State of the Union. In a completely unexpected announcement, Bush asked Congress for $15 billion for AIDS in Africa -- drugs, treatment and prevention.

40 posted on 08/04/2009 7:59:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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