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House Health-Care Bill Would Establish 'Medical Homes' for the Elderly and Disabled
CNSNews.com ^ | July 30, 2009 | Marie Magleby

Posted on 07/30/2009 3:34:15 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: Sparko
I agree. If medicare/medicaid were to provide funds for nursing and aid services (and continuing physical and occupational therapy) for the patient at the home of their loved ones, I'm sure most people would rather have them at home instead of some institution.

But it doesn't, so when our parents get to that point of not being able to safely care for themselves, we are faced with (1) keeping them at home and providing 24/7/365 care by ourselves, (2) letting them stay at home and using whatever monetary resources they still have and we might be able to contribute to hire nurses and aids to care for them, (3) put them in a nursing home and take advantage of the medicaid provisions (which would not take effect until after every last dime of their assets have been spent first.)

181 posted on 07/31/2009 4:53:15 AM PDT by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: 3catsanadog

Dismal, isn’t it?

Perhaps the only way that the current administration would change the Medicare/Medicaid payment rules to permit home care is to convince Obama and crew that he could create thousands of instant jobs for ACORN and the SEIU workers.

Now that *would* be a dismal scenario: ACORN and SEIU workers tending to your Granny, pawing through her possessions and enjoying some of her SS payments. In a perverse way, her longevity might actually be ensured.
s/o


182 posted on 07/31/2009 5:01:18 AM PDT by Sparko (I'll never be your pizza burnin')
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To: tubebender
My brother, 87 just went into Harvest of Fowler...

Oy. I guess they were trying to evoke that "autumn of your years" idea but harvest? Hmmm. Not a good choice in an eldercare context, especially when the one time anybody else will actually look at the residents' driver's licenses in their lives in order to check if consent was ever given for organ donation will eventually be right inside that place.

So Harvest is not such a great name for your brother's new home, then, but quite fitting, in a perverse way for Obamacare's new Death Facilitation Camps, isn't it, where the separation of young & healthy 'wheat' from the elderly & infirm 'chaff' is evidently the hope & change everyone was waiting for.

183 posted on 07/31/2009 6:21:27 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Doogle; All
There's so much more to this story!Summary of the Criminal Charges Against Baxter Pharmaceutical (Bioterrorism and Mass Murder - H1N1 Vaccine )

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184 posted on 07/31/2009 1:25:13 PM PDT by Larousse2 (Like June Carter Cash, "I'm just tryin' to matter.")
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To: Doogle
death camps

I would think of them as a “Cash for Codgers” program. You drop grandma off at one, renounce other medical benefits, and get a 4500 dollar rebate.

185 posted on 07/31/2009 4:00:01 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue
they get another porkulus, you might even nab a burial
186 posted on 07/31/2009 4:01:54 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: potlatch

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lol!

Very good potlatch!


187 posted on 07/31/2009 4:05:38 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: Man50D
Pinged from Terri Dailies


188 posted on 07/31/2009 5:08:34 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: devolve

Found it on another site.


189 posted on 07/31/2009 5:26:55 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

...and for this health care I suppose the elderly will have to sign over their homes to the government???


190 posted on 07/31/2009 5:29:09 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: screaminsunshine
I'm stealing that quote. It's brilliant.

Actually, it's going to be my new tagline.

191 posted on 07/31/2009 5:32:31 PM PDT by Lizavetta (In Communism everything is free. But there isn't any of it.)
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To: mware

That wouldn’t surprise me. Many elderly have had to sign away their homes to nursing homes for many years now.


192 posted on 07/31/2009 5:33:18 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: Man50D

I may be stupid, but how is this different from current nursing homes?


193 posted on 07/31/2009 6:52:39 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: Diogenesis

How do I get the graphic!??? I want it on my Facebook!


194 posted on 07/31/2009 6:53:42 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: mkjessup

want that graphic, too...to post on Facebook...please help.


195 posted on 07/31/2009 6:55:36 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: MountainFlower
Nursing homes have doctors and nurses on staff.

These medical homes specifically say that doctor will not be required.

other parts of obama care.

PG 429 Lines 10-12 “advance care consultation” may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.

PG 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any “Quality measure” of HealthCare Services as they see fit.

196 posted on 07/31/2009 7:01:09 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

That, and “Soylent Green is people.” The Kenyan is trying to take us down the road to perdition..


197 posted on 07/31/2009 7:16:52 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: mware; All
we don't have doctors on staff....we have one or two that stop in one day a week and are there for only a few hours in the morning...is that considered on staff!?

the scary part of this....I just realized they will be telling ME what care my children will and will not get... they heart conditions! My mother has heart issues and my dad has cancer. So... let the black hitler rule???!!! Truly, this is nothing short of Germany, the 2009 version!

198 posted on 07/31/2009 8:29:52 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: mware; EternalVigilance; The Spirit Of Allegiance; All
I can't remember how to post a link... brain-fried!

http://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/healthcare_overview_obama_072909.pdf
is this the same place you are getting the information from?!

This is truly gut-wrenching! Two of three of my daughters have heart conditions. Someone who knows nothing about them will tell them what they can and cannot receive for health care!? Abortions will be funded, like it or not and every region in the US must have them available. If you are elderly, they will give you information on how to kill yourself, or help you do it. THIS IS LIKE THE STORY LINE OF A HORROR MOVIE in REAL LIFE!

ON MY KNEES! How God's heart must be breaking! Mandated abortions, euthanasia, killing off the weak and ill... flashbacks of Germany, anyone?

And what is this about government access to our financial records and accounts??!!! HUH!?? Automatic debits for the mandated health care plan!?? This is a REPUBLIC? Where are my choices? Where are my rights??!!

199 posted on 07/31/2009 9:25:30 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: Lizavetta

I do not remember what it was but U GOT IT!


200 posted on 07/31/2009 11:59:43 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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