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The political alchemy of Birtherism
American Thinker ^ | 07-29-09 | By Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 07/28/2009 10:22:30 PM PDT by GOP_Lady

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To: Maelstorm

Alinsky preached planting “memes” into the public consciousness.

Didn’t matter one whit whether they were actually true or not...just that they were abundantly sown like bad seeds, to take root wherever they fell.

“Truth” has no place any more.

What is presented as “truth” does.

“What we perceive, we believe.”

Unfortunately, we are more often than not handed skillfully altered perceptions.

Alinsky would be proud of his proteges.

They have learned well at the Devil’s knee.

[seriously...everyone should get a grip on their gag reflex and read that evil book..all of this would suddenly “make sense”]


41 posted on 07/28/2009 11:21:37 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Frantzie

I’m sure it did.

Now let’s see who loves money more than fighting for freedom and truth.


42 posted on 07/28/2009 11:24:03 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: trumandogz; Frantzie
Were each and every one of the House Republicans using "Alinksy tactics" when not a singly one of them voted against a Resolution on the House Floor that stated that Obama was born in Hawaii?

Strawman argument, which is typical of you.

It started out as a resolution that talked about Hawaii and its history and then Ambercrombie stuck a clause in there pertaining to Obama being a natural born citizen. Bachmann tried to object, but realistically, it was too late at that point in time.

At any rate, it's a non binding resolution and if Obama has committed any malfeasence pertaining to his birth documents it will nothing to mitigate or absolve him of those transgressions or make him elegible to still hold office.

43 posted on 07/28/2009 11:25:01 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: Electric Graffiti
Passports (US/Indonesian/Pakistan?) — Not released

The answer is quite simple.

He travelled to Pakistan using his U.S. Passport.

Your dream Mandingo lover is the one that has provided no evidence.

And it is words like those that show us your true motivations.

44 posted on 07/28/2009 11:25:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Cyropaedia

Not a strawman if you are unable to get one singe member of Congress to say that Obama was not born in Hawaii.


45 posted on 07/28/2009 11:27:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
"The answer is quite simple.

He travelled to Pakistan using his U.S. Passport.
"


As long as you've seen it that's good enough for me.../barf off-- better yet FOAD
46 posted on 07/28/2009 11:29:29 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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To: Electric Graffiti
As long as you've seen it that's good enough for me.../barf off-- better yet FOAD

I am not all that sure what a "FOAD" is but that does not seem to be the issue at hand.

But the answer to your question is simple, he went to Pakistan on a US Passport, which of course was perfectly legal.

47 posted on 07/28/2009 11:33:25 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: GOP_Lady
Funny thing, you don't see Democrats worried about their conspiracy theorists. They end up winning everything when they come out with their 9/11 conspiracies and Trig conspiracies, but Republicans are supposed to worry that fighting Obama’s unprecedented document concealment will make Americans want never ending communism!
48 posted on 07/28/2009 11:50:27 PM PDT by Perchant
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To: GOP_Lady

Doesn’t the word “Birtherism” have a distinctive ring to it?


50 posted on 07/29/2009 12:02:27 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Obama Administration is a blueprint for Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Smokeyblue; shibumi

I think it’s more clever than that.

A seed of doubt, once planted, is not easily uprooted.

[”Hath God ~surely~ said Ye shall die?”]

Since marginalizing/ridiculing the opposition is a premier tenet of Alinsky’s “bible”, I think this was -intentional-.

He knew the circumstances of his birth was *just* “mysterious” enough to get traction in the “fringe” and planted the seeds of his ineligibility on purpose.

This sets the stage for “handling” any other questions that will ever be asked of him.

Whatever ~is~ or is ~not~ on the BC is nowhere as important as his refusal to release it.
[’Mystery hath more power than Revelation’]

If [more likely when] anyone who questions his birth is summarily slapped down, even by their “own kind”, he has won a HUGE victory.

From that moment forth, *any* question about him will instantly be classified as being on par with “those birther types”.

He will have absolute and utter free rein [reign?] over his cowering, silenced subjects.

If perverted laws are passed [”Fairness Doctrines”] effectively making it illegal to speak such “blasphemies” against him, how many will turn on [turn in?] their own friends/family *just* to appear to be in step with the program?
To take any possible suspicion away from themselves?

It’s not like this has never happened before.

We have 2 choices.

Pursue it to the bitter end, regardless of which talking heads betray us or roll over and accept him as the infallible, perfect messiah.


51 posted on 07/29/2009 12:07:44 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: trumandogz
Not a strawman if you are unable to get one singe member of Congress to say that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

Another strawman. By law, he controls access the necessary evidence ( birth records ). So long as that is the case, it is entirely incumbent upon him to prove his elegibility.

52 posted on 07/29/2009 12:11:12 AM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: GOP_Lady

BTTT!


53 posted on 07/29/2009 12:11:23 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Salamander
As Frank Herbert said in "Dune" .....

"I see plans within plans within plans."

54 posted on 07/29/2009 12:14:51 AM PDT by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: muawiyah

Muawiyah, I too am worried about the health care scam.

My husband, who is literally my life, is 65 and although he’s hale and hardy, he is STILL “over 65” and therefore “expendable” to those who worship youth and inexperience.

*I* am sick from worrying what will happen to *him*, should this hell-spawned health care bill pass.

I will NOT worship their gold-plated moon calf.
Ever.

My birthday this year is ruined because it falls one day before we find out *for sure* if the health-scam is taken to vote.

My best to you.

Keep on mockin’....:)


55 posted on 07/29/2009 12:17:26 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Frantzie
Sad because American Thinker was a LOT better than National Review.

Whether it's true or not, it doesn't matter. The left is using it for their gain. You have to know when to hold them, and know when to fold them. With the left controlling the story, it over.

56 posted on 07/29/2009 12:17:27 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: GOP_Lady

Another factor pushing the birther phenomenon is that those who have thoroughly investigated the birther claims have much more detailed knowledge of the subject than the average pundit or reporter writing about it. Birthers keep waiting to hear real answers to the basic questions, but those answers just never come. Instead one hears bloviating reporters and pundits who don’t know a COLB from a parking ticket. “Shut up” is not an acceptable answer.


57 posted on 07/29/2009 12:17:40 AM PDT by TChad
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To: shibumi

He ripped that off from Ezekiel.

[is there *anything* that is not derivative?]....:))


58 posted on 07/29/2009 12:21:31 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: TChad

“Shut up” is not an acceptable answer.”

Just wait ‘til “Shut up or else” comes into play.


59 posted on 07/29/2009 12:24:09 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Cyropaedia
So long as that is the case, it is entirely incumbent upon him to prove his elegibility.

And he proved his eligibility in the same manner as those who have preceded him in office.

60 posted on 07/29/2009 12:30:21 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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