(Obama) Born in the U.S.A. (says National Review)

National Review ^ | July 28, 2009 | The Editors

[bgill]

But today’s journalists find doing more work than walking to the fax machine outrageous.

Hear, hear! I've been saying that for years.

[DJ MacWoW]

The comments by people that haven’t checked any sources of info makes me crazy too. :-)

[leilani]

And to all the birthers who will call me a RINO after reading my post, I'd rather be a RINO than a tin foil hat wearing loser who can't see the forest through the trees.

Don't take it personally because, speaking of Mr. Alinsky, I have no doubt that some of the people shreiking RINO! the loudest around here & furiously trying to stoke paranoia about the BC are working for Rahm & Axelrod & cashing paychecks signed by their patron Soros.

Think about it: if you wanted to destroy America's global political & economic hegemony & remake the eeeeevil US in the image of a third world communist banana-republic while nobody was noticing, isn't that what you'd do? Heck, I know I would. I'd be at FR & every other forum every damn day stoking controversy about the questionable circumstances of Barack Obama's birth & trying to focus everybody's attention like a laser on an issue which will ultimately be proven quaintly irrelevant after my crooked anti-american pals got done with really shredding the US constitution..

[April Lexington]

Absolutely! If Freepers can't grasp this issue, we have a fundamental problem. We need to enforce our laws or we don't have laws. If the Constitution is no longer valid, then... income taxes are no longer authorized and slave ownership is suddenly legal. Where does it stop? And, where are the lovers of the law?

This foolishness is like letting a burglar continue his trade until the next police chief is appointed. Insanity. Yet, Obama need in to rove he is qualified to serve is glossed over. Of course it looks like a conspiracy! People are p*ssed off and don't trust government now. Why trust any of these jerks if Obama doesn't even have to play by the rules. Why should we???? Free men or exploited tax serfs. Take your pick and take your stand...

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Please explain how some proposed state bill that may or may not ever become law before or after 2012 has any significance on the 2008 election and current presidency?"

I never stated that it would. If you think that you're going to get Obambi kicked out of office before 2012 over a birth certificate, your kidding yourself. Besides, that just gives us Joe Biden as President. Is that any better? Does that advance our cause at all?

[Paradox]

Either way really, its a done deal. Obama, for all intents and purposes, is going to be considered a proper natural born citizen. Is that the absolute truth? Only Obama and a few others really know.

While I think its OK is some people persue this, I dont think its something that the conservative movement should obsess about. Obama is on his heels, and the last thing we need is something with which we can be marginalized and ridiculed. Keep it on the "down low". If something comes of it, I'll be the first to eat a big fat plate of crow. I'll keep my eye on this stuff though...

[April Lexington]

Don't take it personally because, speaking of Mr. Alinsky, I have no doubt that some of the people shreiking RINO! the loudest around here & furiously trying to stoke paranoia about the BC are working for Rahm & Axelrod & cashing paychecks signed by their patron Soros.

Most of these posters are either trolls or misguided. Either we live in a nation of laws or a nation of thugs. This is very serious stuff. You life, liberty and property are at stake here. Obama and his communist handlers are playing for keeps. They wan us/you to live like happy little Latin American peasants while they cruise around in luxury. You are dirt to these people. Either fight for your rights and your freedom or lay down and die...

[Frantzie]

I think National Review is almost out of business. The print magazine may no longer exist. Rich ?? forget his name left and Lucianne’s son was running it but he really is not up to the task.

I guess they don’t get the Saudi money like Huff Po or LGF. Maybe they decided to start taking it.

[adorno]

It is sheer stupidity to try to compare this "birth certificate" question to the other conspiracy theories which are quite unprovable.

This is not a conspiracy. This is a real question of qualification.

This "birther" conspiracy can be made to disappear quite easily.

All the president needs to do is to instruct the proper authorities in Hawaii to produce a "copy" of his long form birth certificate for public viewing.

If he is in fact shown to have been "born in the U.S." then he and the democrats can call it a huge victory against the "birthers" and against those loony conspiracy theorists.

My guess is that, Obama won't produce the certificate because it is damaging to his presidency.

The "birthers" can then move along to attacking the president on his polities and politics.

Until the long form birth certificate is produced, the question will remain and rightfully so. Until it is produced, the American people have every right to continue to be suspicious.

[April Lexington]

NOBODY asked the “Conservative movement” to get involved. They decided to trash us because WE have a plan and WE are advancing and WE are actually doing something other than just posting BS on right wing sites. Easy to sit in a chair and bitch. Harder to actually sue someone for conspiracy, etc... Leave us alone and come up with some grand GOP strategy to actually win a dog catcher race somewhere... (not directed at poster. General rant)

[April Lexington]

The Great William's son actually supported Obama. The National Review was buried with Bill. RIP...

[a fool in paradise]

The president’s birthday comes to mind because we recently spent some time looking at a photograph of his birth certificate, being held by Joe Miller of Factcheck.org, who took the time to examine it. President Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at 7:24 p.m, in Honolulu County, Hawaii, on the island of Oahu. The serial number on his birth certificate is 010641.

What hospital? He's claimed two different ones now.

And I agree that they refuse to show their hand because it does serve as a distraction. But it also blows away the smoke they blew up America's collective a** when they said they would have a new openess and transparency in government.

There is no justifiable reason to not release his birth certificate (long form) to the American people.

[April Lexington]

The conspiracy centers around hiding the truth. Who, in their right mind, wouldn"t release their birth data, transcripts, etc. as an act of good faith. HOW CAN ANYONE TRUST A JERK LIKE OBAMA?????

He doesn't release because he is a product of KGB and American communist activities in the 1960s. He was manufactured and his goal, with other American Communists, is to severely weaken the United Sates so that other economies can emerge. His mission is to hurt the United States. Americans are way to naive and too ignorant to understand geopolitical strategy. Sheep with credit cards...

[TheBigIf]

“There has never been a President who has not had two American citizen parents.”

You said:
“False. “

Would you care to elaborate at all? Are you talking about someone who was grandfathered in at the time of the Adoption of the Constitution? Or can you name me someone who was in the same situation as Obama is?

[DavidFarrar]

Chester Arthur.

Please note: I am playing the Devil’s Advocate here.
ex animo
davidfarrar

[leilani]

Yes, of course laws are important, but NR & Ann Coulter & all of the newly-christened RINOs around here aren't discounting that.

What they're saying is that you have to pick your battles intelligently. This WH would dearly love for everybody on the right to focus on that 'possible' illegality & deviously promote the idea that he 'might' be ineligible, because in the process they receive on a silver platter the opportunity to paint all people opposed to any of their agenda as obsessive kooks & they not-so-incoincidentally get to put a dagger straight into the heart of everything American has ever stood for TODAY.

That's what the so-called "RINOs!" are saying: there are far graver threats to the survival of this republic on the cusp of being implemented by these anti-american pigs right now. This has become a very convenient, very effective diversion for Barack Obama & the prospects of success for his nefarious agenda for this nation as we speak!

[TheBigIf]

From my understanding both of Chester Arthur’s parents were American citizens. His eligibility was being questioned because he was said that he was born in either Ireland or Canada but the question was not about his parents citizenship.

The issue as to his birthplace was never resolved.

[Victory Rocks]

I won't take it personally, and like you I smell something fishy about all this. Just a few weeks ago hardly anyone was talking about this BC nonsense except for a handful of Alex Jones type kooks, but now that people are on to the horrors of Obama's healthscare plan and we are close to seeing it defeated, this BC stuff has mysteriously risen to a fever pitch.

Even though I despise the likes of Rahm, Axlerod, and Obama, they are not stupid and I think it's foolish for us conservatives to fall for what I see as a plan by Obama and his thugs to distract us and play us like a fiddle.

I want Conservatives and Republicans to win in 2010 and 2012 and I just don't see this BC crap as a winning issue, just as Monica Lewinsky's blue stained dress wasn't the winning issue many conservatives hoped it would be back in the nineties.

[lovesdogs]

I am very curious about the digital conversion of the birth records in HI. All of the information included on long form BCs was not included on COLBs. Would this have required that countless man hours to manually enter the info? If so it seems like a whole lot of people would have been involved, some of whom may have picked up bits and pieces about what in the world they were going to do with all of those boxes of BCs.

[steve0]

I National Review “Editors” smarter than you, come down from on high and ask you to “please move along” nothing to see here citizen. I will not reveal to you that we expended no money or resources, hired no investigative journalist to support the band wagon conclusion that BO is your new official and certified master.

We’ve always been at war with Eastasia. We have always known that Zero was born at Kapi’olani hospital. Whoops I mean we have always known that Zero was born at Queen’s Medical Center. Nor has Zero been known by any other name.