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CEH ^ | July 1, 2009

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Oh, you dear young man. You misunderstand my purpose in exchanging posts with you: I was not intending to “debate” the merits of young earth creationism with you. I have no more desire to do that than to “debate” whether disease is caused by evil spirits and imbalanced humours, whether the earth actually revolves around the sun or vice versa, or whether phrenology is due for a comeback. I was intending just to mock you and your silly beliefs.

Make no mistake about it: young earth creationism deserves all the mockery it gets, and belongs squarely in the dustbin with nonsense pseudoscience like that above. Pretending that young earth creationism has even the slightest scientific validity or support and therefore even worthy of "debate" is not only amazingly ignorant, but does an incredible disservice to the scientific progress we've made over the last century.

Young earth creationism deserves contempt, because it is based on willful, indeed proud, ignorance of the world around us. A lot of scientists worked incredibly hard, and some paid steep prices, to move western civilization beyond the kind of backward ignorance you espouse. I pity you to a certain extent, but you have no one to blame for your ignorance but yourself.

And, lest we forget, this little exchange all began with your ridiculous statement that “If evolution is true, there is no such thing as morality,” which you have yet to support in any manner whatsoever.

[vpintheak]

welcome back. I had wondered what happened to you. It’s amazing how so many people’s eyes are blinded to the Truth. There has to be a reason for it.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Don’t you think you should have pinged me on this glowing character reference?

[mnehring]

...just *one* are a of science that supports your contention that the earth is only a few thousand years old.

Have you ever received a response to this? I know I've asked it many times here and on other forums and I never get an answer. It seems like a simple question.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Dave, I know “genuine debate” when I see it, and fella...and young earth creationism isn’t fit for “genuine debate.” If you want a “genuine debate” about it, I suggest you get in your time machine and go back to the day before the development of the scientific method, because that’s the last time such nonsense deserved to be “debated.”

Young earth creationism a backward, ignorant, silly notion whose adherents pat each other on the back for who can do the best job of misunderstanding actual science.

Seriously, Dave, the year is 2009 and you believe in young earth creationism. Just say that out loud in the presence of actual scientists, and you could power a small city with the (well deserved) eye rolling.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

You expect a rational answer for something like that?

Really?

[taxesareforever]

“God created evolution and time.”

You are right about the “time”.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Dave, you misunderstand again. I’m not saying one *cannot* debate the merits of young earth creationism against actual science, I’m saying one *should not* give your silly nonsense a seat at the big kids’ table. See the difference?

One *could* debate whether earth is actually perched atop a giant tortise as opposed to revolving around the sun in an elliptical orbit according the theory of gravity, but why?

Which brings up another issue, I suppose: do you actually believe that the earth revolves around the sun, or is that just another one of those silly “theories” that godless scientists are trying to force on the public?

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Once again, your analogy is flawed.

The theory of evolution and the nonsense that is young earth creationism are not competing teams on the same field. Rather, the theory of evolution is the ‘85 Bears, and the nonsense that is young earth creationism is the guy with backward pants sitting in the alley behind Burger King insisting to the squirrels that he belongs on the same field as Walter Payton, and dammit, the fact that they won’t let him on the field with Mike Singletary demonstrates how scared the NFL is of his athletic prowess.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

It’s all just ipso facto nonsense until you put your money where your mouth is.

Dave, perhaps you're used to dealing with people that were willing to treat young earth creationism as if it were a legitimate competing scientific theory that deserved to be debated as such. You're not dealing with one of those people now.

You can beg for a "debate" all you like, but I understand that just "debating" something as silly as young earth creationism grants it status far above its station. I don't care to "debate" your superstitious nonsense any more than I care to "debate" voodoo with a witch doctor that insists its a perfectly valid alternative to germ theory.

Face it, Dave...you don't get a seat at the big kids table if you're still playing with blocks.

[Bosh Flimshaw]

Claiming illegitimacy is just a cover for being unable to prove it.

That's a bold card to play for someone who believes the earth is only a few thousand years old, has absolutely no scientific basis for such a belief, and thinks nipping at the heels of actual scientific work somehow validates his own absurdity.

A bold card, indeed.