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Steele: GOP Welcomes Pro-Choice Moderates
http://www.newsmax.com ^ | Sunday, May 17, 2009 | http://www.newsmax.com

Posted on 05/17/2009 8:20:57 PM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: clintonh8r
I recall so many FReepers were nearly orgasmic when he became chairman.

He subs on Bill Bennett's morning radio show.

Prior to his election he sounded MUCH more conservative.

141 posted on 05/18/2009 9:08:08 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Maelstorm

He should join It’s My Party Too! , Whitman’s party.. or maybe he already was onboard.


142 posted on 05/18/2009 9:14:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed.)
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To: Maelstorm

Just more evidence that the GOP is no place for conservatives. We’re an impotent minority in that failed party.


143 posted on 05/18/2009 9:15:16 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (The GOP is populated by "moderates"; conservatives are just their useful idiots. Go third party!)
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To: jimt

“He subs on Bill Bennett’s morning radio show.”

Yeah, pretty often. And like Bennett, Steele has taken potshots at Rush. I don’t dislike either of them. I just don’t trust them.


144 posted on 05/18/2009 9:24:36 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Retired COB
That's what happened with Bush

Just the opposite. Bush was pro life but not a fiscal conservative on spending.

145 posted on 05/18/2009 11:48:25 AM PDT by byteback
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To: Moseley
But Dems DO NOT support pro life candidates

It's more like "pro life" candidates. But they will if they think by doing so they can torpedo a conservative and advance atheism and socialism.

146 posted on 05/18/2009 12:43:32 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Better to convert enemies to allies than to destroy them)
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To: mikeus_maximus

No. We are not the minority that is the problem. They do not represent the party anymore. We need to start showing up at the state conventions and putting an end to this. We need to take control of the national party.


147 posted on 05/18/2009 12:59:18 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Those that have nothing to hide welcome debate.)
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To: GOPsterinMA

I only wrote the first sentence, the second sentence was included in the post I was responding to.


148 posted on 05/18/2009 4:03:28 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Worthy is the Lamb)
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To: libbylu
Steele is right. Abortion is way down on the list when most consider who to vote for. You don’t win hearts and mind by acting morally superior and that anyone who is prochoice is evil/garbage/dirt bags that you don’t want to associate with.

It isn't that far down the list for a lot of the Republican base. And when you find this pro-choice, freedom loving social-liberal/fiscal-conservative, you usually find somebody like Christie Whitman who wasn't fiscally conservative and wasn't freedom loving.

You can't love freedom, and then trash the rule of law. She put in very liberal folks on our Supreme Court, who've decided that a constitutional requirement for educating kids from 5 to 18, really included preschoolers. They also misquouted the 'thorough and efficient system' clause into 'thorough and efficient education', turning a clause that suggests limits on education funding into one that supports unlimited funding.

The only reason to bring up abortion here is to tarnish the pro-lifers, and get them to shut up. If you are a pro-lifer, the Whitman Republicans don't want to hear from you on any issue.

149 posted on 05/18/2009 4:30:15 PM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: huldah1776

Either way, good stuff!!!


150 posted on 05/18/2009 6:46:41 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Where can I take 'Austrian' lessons?)
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To: Retired COB

Well if America didn’t know the difference between Bush and Obama then, it does now.


151 posted on 05/19/2009 1:25:40 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Beat a better path, and the world will build a mousetrap at your door.)
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To: Drango
I want to WIN the next election and support Steele.Big Tent is what’s needed.

'10, meet '06 & '08...

Some folks never learn anything. This statement is why I am no longer a Republican.

152 posted on 05/19/2009 1:29:46 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: byteback
I'd rather get back in power and be in a position to effect our positions than to be an out of power ideologue.

Power without principle is tyranny. You advocate the very thing Conservatives, and America, are avowed to defeat.

153 posted on 05/19/2009 1:37:48 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade
I get it. Let’s be pro-life and pro-abortion, pro-gun and anti-gun, pro-small government and low taxes and pro-big government and huge taxes, pro-military and anti-military, pro-same sex marriage and anti-same sex marriage, pro-bailouts and anti-bailouts, pro-captialism and pro-socialism, pro-freedom and anti-freedom, pro-American and anti-American.

Sheesh! Yer sounding like you've been listening to Romney....

154 posted on 05/19/2009 1:57:42 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

I represent the Constitution. I invite you to join me.


155 posted on 05/19/2009 9:20:57 AM PDT by byteback
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To: byteback
I represent the Constitution. I invite you to join me.

Sorry. Anyone who would yield on abortion does not support the Constitution in any way other than lip service.

156 posted on 05/19/2009 11:53:14 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

really. Where do you see that in the Constitution? Is it right next to where the gov’t takes over auto companies?


157 posted on 05/19/2009 12:03:27 PM PDT by byteback
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To: byteback

Show me any state in this union where your life may be taken without just cause or due process, and I will cede the point.


158 posted on 05/19/2009 12:22:47 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1

That makes absolutely no sense. My point has been that we should not kick people out of the party for being Pro choice. You think we should. In most cases those people support regulations and processes.


159 posted on 05/19/2009 1:06:48 PM PDT by byteback
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To: byteback
That makes absolutely no sense.

It makes absolute sense. Life is already protected by the US Constitution. It is the very first of the enumerated inalienable rights (DoI), and the Constitution limits everyone from taking life without due process of law. Neither the federal government, nor the states, have the jurisdiction to sanction abortion on that basis.

To say you "represent the Constitution" while defending abortion, or those who would support it at any level is what makes no sense.

My point has been that we should not kick people out of the party for being Pro choice. You think we should. In most cases those people support regulations and processes.

There are more regulations and processes in place by federal edict to demand the right of a woman to kill her child, and in support of the abortion industry (to include curtailment of free speech), than there ever could be in accepting the clear and unwavering terms of the Constitutional right to life.

There is no regulation or process necessary, beyond the natural identification of a "baby" as a baby, and worthy of the protections afforded every American, not to mention the sane protections of historical human justice... Even illegal aliens and the most sadistic criminals have more rights than the most innocent and fragile of us all. It is inhuman and vile. It is beneath contempt.

And what you do with your party is no longer a concern of mine (or of anyone I know). A party which cannot see clearly enough to follow the Constitution on a matter as fundamental as the guarantee of inalienable rights is not a party I care to associate with.

160 posted on 05/19/2009 2:42:14 PM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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