That would be supporting candidates who represent the opposition party's platform in much greater degree than your own. Pure stupidity.
Posted on 05/10/2009 1:08:11 AM PDT by Ron C.
You are a tiresome character assassin. How dare you name-call on behalf of the dumbest and most counterproductive political strategy ever devised. Dumbest ideas since the charge of the light brigade to attack everyone and anyone on the right who isnt 100% lockstep with your own dumb “all or nothing” unworkable strategy.
EV, you know perfectly well that I voted for Keyes in the primary. I also have children . It would be wrong to let Obama win and have him put our nation at risk, destroy our economy, and attack the culture of life (which he has already) by NOT trying to stop him. I would NEVER do nothing to stop Obama by failing to support McCain/Palin.
If you did NOT vote McCain/Palin, two prolife candidates then YOU are the hypocrite for failing to do the practical right thing for the culture of life ... you are so full of your own shopworn, foolish estremist bullheadedness, you cant see how you only lose supporters for the cause and divide and conquer the right with your bitter, divisive character asssassinations. you fail to see that divided we fall, and in our divisions the LEFT wins and your cause loses. Get off the high horse and stop calling people hypocrites for the crime of being smarter and more rational in their political actions than you.
You sir are the hypocrite. You claim to be doing some good.... when in fact you are so wrong that
Yet any one of them smell like roses compared to what we have today in the White House, a pro-abort non-Christian who is socializing the country and freeing terrorists.
“It’s over dude. Buy some ammo.”
that’s what the libs want you to believe. They said that in 1993 and 1975 and 1965... It’s never over.
“Another straw man argument, EV. Rockingham did not say that we need to gather power in Reagan’s name, but that just as Reagan did it once, we can do it again.”
EV’s modus op is always the straw man and the shift-o-rama.
To me, they all just respond to the socialists with a milder socialist solution. They are not conservatives who are self directed.
If John McCain is pro-life I’m the Queen of England. He’s a wicked, godless, arrogant enemy of conservatism, and his nomination by the Republican Party is one of the most shameful political episodes ever. Don’t lecture me about not supporting that snake. You don’t own my vote, and you don’t have a franchise on my political support or anyone else’s.
The old joke is that the Democrats propose to tear down the Washington Monument, and the Republicans respond with a plan to do it in three stages.
So true that it isn’t really funny.
Yeah, with mush in opposition.
“I refuse to associate myself politically any longer with anyone who breaches their oath to protect and defend the Constitution, which states as its crowning purpose the protection of posterity.”
The winning strategy is to JOIN OR DIE. If you dont want to JOIN. Fine. Dont join. You always have the alernative ... Die (Politically that is - become a meaningless and irrelevent nonentity with zero political power, ruled over by the Obama socialists who are more than happy to have you be a taxpaying sucker for their schemes, living in near house-arrest.)
“They could care less about the core principles that our liberty depends on. That I care about.”
You dont give a damn about principles. Not for a second. Its all a sham and act on your part. If you cared about principles, you would share the concern of Ron C. about how to advance them. But you dont give a damn about that, and your sophistry to attack those who are concerned only exposes your muddled thinking.
Your complete and utter lack of concern with actually advancing principles like eg actually advancing the culture of life indicates that your whole political motivation is built around a fetishism of some sort and not real flesh-and-blood principles that affect us.
I dont care if *you* will JOIN OR DIE, I only know that the successful fighters for liberty in this country will JOIN OR DIE. United we stand and divided we fall. Splitters and extremists can stay powerless eunuchs if they cant handle the concept of coalition politics 101.
That would be supporting candidates who represent the opposition party's platform in much greater degree than your own. Pure stupidity.
Conservatives "in coalition" with liberals, hacks and compromisers, with of course the wicked folks always coming out on top, is before anything else what is destroying our free republic. I pray that someday soon you wake up to that fact.
“Don’t lecture me about not supporting that snake. “
You supported worse ... Obama.
Not only are your principles a sham but your continued sham actions of attacking Republicans more harshly than OBAMA are clear as day.
“his nomination by the Republican Party is one of the most shameful political episodes ever”
And your yearlong attacks on Romney, plus your attacks on Thompson HELPED MAKE IT HAPPEN. Gosh, you are such a devious hypocrite! First you attacked Fred Thompson on the obscure he’s merely a federalist on abortion. Then Romney - For months you NEVER ATTACKED MCCAIN, just Romney - when it was perfectly clear that Romney would be the main alternative to Rudy or McCain. You didnt like Huck too, fine, he was just a sucker draw to get mccain nominated, but why attack him... hmmm. Only when McCain was a lock did you go after him. Almost as if you are trying to HELP OBAMA WIN.
“You don’t own my vote, and you don’t have a franchise on my political support or anyone else’s.”
Then dont be a hypocrite and act like you own *my* vote and call me names for doign the RIGHT THING! How dare you dish out what you dont take!
I really dont care how you voted. I only care that people realize where you are really coming from ... an extremist, counterproductive, very muddled, unprincipled position.
JOIN OR DIE.
Strawman.
Strawman.
HARD TRUTH: John McCain has done a lot more for the prolife cause than Alan Keyes.
So maybe you are a Queen after all.
Juvenile.
John McCain is the bane of the pro-life movement.
Your apology is gracious, and demonstrates a willingness to be open minded. This is at odds though with your attack on McCain (Post #297) where you stated that "John McCain is the bane of the pro-life movement."
While I agree that McCain's voting record relative to pro-life issues is mixed, he nevertheless garnered a 0% rating from NARAL (reported by On The Issues) - as did many other democrats and republicans. This hardly qualifies as being the "bane of the pro-life movement".
Before he went over to the dark side too and endorsed John Judas McCain, Senator Santorum made it clear that McCain “more often than not” stood with liberal Senators in blocking conservative legislation in the back rooms of the Senate.
It is that inside knowledge from the ex-Senator from Pennsylvania, plus the rest of the public record, that I base my statement on.
And I stand by it.
Senator Santorum: McCain unreliable on Life Issues
1/16/2008
Catholic News Agency (www.catholicnewsagency.com)
McCain’s largely pro-life record, Santorum claimed, concealed other problems, such as McCain’s support for embryonic stem cell research and his vote against a Federal Marriage Amendment.
Washington, DC (CNA) - Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum has attacked Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain of Arizona for hindering social conservative issues, arguing that McCain is a poor choice to lead the effort to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Speaking to radio host Mark Levine on Levine’s Thursday night radio show, Senator Santorum cited Senator McCain’s compromises in congressional debates about Supreme Court nominations as evidence the Arizona politician was not a strong pro-life candidate.
Santorum, who is now a fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, said of McCain, “this is not a guy who would give me a lot of confidence that he would appoint the judges who are necessary on the court to overturn Roe v. Wade, who would be strict constructionist judges.”
McCain’s largely pro-life record, Santorum claimed, concealed other problems, such as McCain’s support for embryonic stem cell research and his vote against a Federal Marriage Amendment.
Further, Santorum alleged that during his tenure in the Senate McCain did not provide the necessary support to discuss and vote on social conservative issues on the Senate floor.
Santorum disclosed what happened behind the scenes when he held meetings to gather votes for proposed legislation, telling Levine, “That discussion is held in private, where you’re jostling and jockeying to get your legislation into the queue so that you can have your time on the floor to get something done.”
“And I can tell you, when social-conservative issues were ever raised — whether it was marriage or abortion or a whole host of other issues — there were always the moderates who said ‘no, no, no, we can’t: they’re divisive, divisive, divisive.’ And more often than not, John McCain was . . . with them” in preventing votes on such issues.
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=26460
I agree - McCain would never have been someone that I trusted. Yet I held my nose and voted for McCain (actually I voted for Palin) because Obama was a much more frightening choice. Personally I wanted to see a Fred Thompson candidacy.
But getting back to the issue at hand, McCain isn't alone in his support of certain pro-abortion topics such as embryonic stem cell research. Point being, there is plenty of blame to go around.
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