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Why Doesn't Communism Have As A Bad A Name As Nazism? (Its Leftist Apologia Stupid Alert)
Townhall.com ^ | 3/24/2009 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 03/23/2009 10:30:58 PM PDT by goldstategop

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To: Little Ray
You tried to sneak a “Z” in their name on me, eh?

Check the spelling again:

Nationalsozialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterparei.

41 posted on 03/24/2009 2:45:39 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (NO YOU CAN'T)
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To: Pontiac
Deriving “NAZI” from “NSDAP, I believe, is yet another concoction that the left has come up to obfuscate the fact that the Nazis were socialists.
42 posted on 03/24/2009 2:51:13 PM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (NO YOU CAN'T)
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To: dfwgator
1. Communists murdered their own people; The families of the 20,000 Polish officers murdered at Katyn would beg to differ with that statement.

Note that I added to Praeger's #1 Add to that the fact that, unfortunately, successor governments in nations like Russia, and governments in China and Cuba, acknowledge no particular abuses of human rights. Like it or not to this day Russia doesn't acknowlege their responsibility, much less that of those involved, and Poland didn't even discuss the issue for over 4 decades. Yes, I know why, but that's why the outrage is missing.

43 posted on 03/24/2009 3:25:00 PM PDT by SJackson (Barack Obama went to Harvard and became an educated fool. Rep. Bobby Rush)
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To: Kent C
I see, you didn't have a clue from the start.

That's pretty harsh Einstein.

At least I don't think Nazis are "right wing"

44 posted on 03/24/2009 4:07:44 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: goldstategop
If you leave Hitler and the Nazis out of the picture for a minute, it would certainly be very hard -- impossible -- to say that the fascists and military dictators of the 1930s were as bad as Lenin and Stalin.

Not that they were good people. They did harm and had the potential to do more, but they didn't leave behind the millions dead that Stalin did, and the worst that the dictators did occured at Hitler's order.

Put Hitler and the Nazis back in the mix and most people probably would say that they were worse, even though the total body count of the Communists was greater. Prager's right about the reasons, but maybe he misses something.

Some people may tell you that the Communists' theories were "beautiful" and Hitler's "ugly." But the dirty secret is that the Nazis fascinate in a way that the Communists don't.

Stalin comes across as a murderous bureaucrat and Hitler as a titanic psychopath. People get bored with the bureaucrat and (if the History Channel is any indication) keep wanting to know more about the psychopath.

45 posted on 03/24/2009 4:19:39 PM PDT by x
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46 posted on 03/24/2009 7:15:22 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
That's pretty harsh Einstein. At least I don't think Nazis are "right wing"

Look, you're the one that contested my answer to the actual question. You tried to 'make yourself right' despite misunderstanding my answer, and then giving an irrelevant 'lesson' - one that is obvious to anyone paying attention that there's no difference between the communist and nazis, but that wasn't what the question was asking.

I even, graciously 'gave you the point' on both being totalitarian, but you couldn't leave it at that. No, you had to demonstrate to all that bothered reading how stubbornly ignorant you really are. Do you really want to go on digging your own hole?? Be my guest. Have a nice life.

47 posted on 03/24/2009 10:36:14 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C
The real answer was the media is Communist (not just left)

Don't worry about my ignorance, part of my family (German) died at the hands of the Nazis.

For a noob, you're kind of a rude DB.

48 posted on 03/25/2009 5:18:37 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: Blue State Insurgent
You're right:
Nazi Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei)
49 posted on 03/25/2009 5:54:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
The real answer was the media is Communist (not just left)

Well, you've almost figured it out. In the article, the Left _was_ the media, (and from their point of view, which was the viewpoint from he was writing, it is just the Left), but I really didn't expect you to know that after the first response where you clearly didn't understand what I meant and why.

Don't worry about my ignorance, part of my family (German) died at the hands of the Nazis.

What? A 'sympathy play' now? What's that have to do with your ignorance in following a simple string of questions and answers?

For a noob, you're kind of a rude DB.

Only after it became clear that your only purpose in life was to prove yourself right regardless of the facts. And your rude remark is typical troll-like projection. Now _I'm_ rude since I pointed out that you were wrong initially. lol. You're the one who felt compelled to say I was wrong. Then when I tell you that you were and why, then I'm "rude". What? Was that your way of 'being nice' to a newbie? Get a life, after you get out of the hole you're still digging.

I was going to let this go but I can do layups for days. Perhaps the Franken and Coleman situation will be finished before us.

50 posted on 03/25/2009 6:00:35 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C
I even, graciously 'gave you the point' on both being totalitarian,

Well duh.

Are the Nazis on the left?

51 posted on 03/25/2009 6:15:09 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Hopefully no one else is following this since it would be a waste of time. And I’m going to be especially frank here. I will give you that you are making an effort now by at least going back and looking over the thread and picking out from my second reply, the ‘I even, graciously, ‘gave you the point’...’. I could think that perhaps you’re going toward some ‘reconciliation’ but then you have to add the ‘Well duh’ comment.

Rock, when I said I’d give you the totalitarian point, I _could_ have said ‘Well duh?’ to you, but I didn’t. I threw in a smiley in my ‘Yes it is’ comment. There was no intent to be rude.

Now, you ask: “Are the Nazi’s on the left?”

I could say ‘No’ or that there is no left and right because it is a bogus scale, then you could say - see we agree! and end all of this. But where the Nazis are, on a bogus 2 dimensional scale was not the original question I was answering to the OP. IOW, this has nothing to do with where the communists and nazis are on that scale - that was an irrelevancy that you entered into this thread via my answer, and I am not going to agree for the sake of ‘not being rude’ or being civil in your eyes. I don’t care what you think of me.

Again, the reason why Communists don’t have as bad a Name as Nazis is that (in their terms, not ours) The Left media is Communistic. Which was and still is my answer. You can agree with that or not.

On _your_ irrelvant point (valid in any other context other than the OP question) that the Communists and Nazis on the false 2D scale are right next to each other, I, as I acknowledged in my second reply, agree with you. Here’s a fuller handling of that view posted by me a few weeks ago post #28:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2204289/posts?page=28#28

I _can_ see that if you had not read the linked article in this thread and had not seen the question that was posed and only saw my reply, that you might post a reply ‘correcting me’. But I can’t see that once I gave you an explanation, you continuing to push your point.


52 posted on 03/25/2009 7:14:48 AM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C
So you're not sure.
53 posted on 03/25/2009 2:47:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
So you're not sure.

I'm sure it's irrelevant to the question posed and I'm sure you're still digging. Pretty sure you'll continue ignoring that fact.

54 posted on 03/25/2009 10:41:59 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C

What fact?


55 posted on 03/26/2009 3:10:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
What fact?

The fact that what you asked is irrelevant to the OP's question.

56 posted on 03/26/2009 7:07:12 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C

What’d I ask?


57 posted on 03/26/2009 7:08:46 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2213240/posts?page=51#51


58 posted on 03/26/2009 7:12:12 PM PDT by Kent C
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To: Kent C

So, are they?


59 posted on 03/26/2009 7:21:58 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2213240/posts?page=54#54


60 posted on 03/26/2009 7:27:14 PM PDT by Kent C
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