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The Big Takeover -- How Wall Street insiders are using the bailout to stage a revolution
rollingstone ^ | Mar 19, 2009 12:49 PM | MATT TAIBBI

Posted on 03/23/2009 6:16:12 AM PDT by dennisw

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To: Tarpon
Thats the way I see it....

Deregulation isn't dishonest or immoral, but regulations are to keep people honest and moral. It's like revoking speed limits and saying now don't go too fast, it's dangerous.

61 posted on 03/23/2009 9:15:58 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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Wall Street made money when they screwed up the system and they will make money to unscrew it. Their key to riches is campaign contributions to politicians — an ‘investment’ in deregulation with great returns.

They love it when a plan comes together.


62 posted on 03/23/2009 9:17:56 AM PDT by ex-snook ( "Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Tarpon
It took decades of lobbying to repeal the Glass Steagel Act. The Glass Steagall Act was finally repealed in 1999 by Clinton.

Clinton signed the bill, true enough ... but Phil Gramm (R, TX) was the fellow who pushed it through Congress which, at the time, was controlled by the Republicans.

It's a bipartisan failure.

63 posted on 03/23/2009 10:20:05 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: dennisw

Well said.


64 posted on 03/23/2009 10:56:04 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: PeterPrinciple
Credit default swaps were unregulated...still are
Plus AIGs main credit default swap operation was in London where there is less scrutiny
65 posted on 03/23/2009 11:05:33 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: r9etb

Soon to be followed by the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000 another major blow to market stability.


66 posted on 03/23/2009 11:06:25 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: American_Centurion
It may have leanings to blame big rich wall street bankers, but it also offers very good evidence, IMO, to blame them. Goldman-Sachs has fingerprints all over this and people in position to make it happen just as stated here. You can definitely blame the Federal Reserve too for its super easy money policy. Wall Street could not have schmemed and profited with out. There would have been no housing/real estate bubble or commodities bubble
67 posted on 03/23/2009 11:11:58 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: American_Centurion
It may have leanings to blame big rich wall street bankers, but it also offers very good evidence, IMO, to blame them. Goldman-Sachs has fingerprints all over this and people in position to make it happen just as stated here. You can definitely blame the Federal Reserve too for its super easy money policy. Wall Street could not have schmemed and profited with out. There would have been no housing/real estate bubble or commodities bubble
68 posted on 03/23/2009 11:12:14 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: Realism

“These over leveraged derivatives and the ability for certain institutions to use them wasn’t legal 10-12 years ago.”

The banks had to find some other way to make up for the lost revenue because they were forced not to in their normal home loan business (CRA). I imagine it went something like “Hey - you’re making us make these low-rate loans. We need somewhere else to make a profit - can’t we be more like Wall Street investment firms?”

I’m not sure I have it right, but the way I understand it - the original $5,000 downpayment from the homeowner turns into a $300,000 assest (the house) for the bank. The bank, under the new rules, is able to leverage that $300,000 by 20 or 30 times or something like that, which the bank invests, and it now has 20 x $300,000 = $6,000,000 worth of assets.

But, the house is overinflatted, the investments are overinflatted, and when the homeowner’s adjustable rate starts to kick in and his monthly payement goes from $900/month to $3,200 per month and he can’t make it, the house goes back to the bank. A few empty houses can be absorbed. A tidal wave of them can’t. So now the bank owns a $100,000 - but that translates into a loss of 20 x $200,000 = $4,000,000 in its investments.

Anyway - that’s my simplified version of what happened from what I can glean from reading FR and watching the news.


69 posted on 03/23/2009 11:27:01 AM PDT by 21twelve (The Obamas have all the class of the Clintons and none of the charm.)
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To: r9etb

Yep, that’s how it works. One Republican and it’s bipartisan. Just like the granddaddy the CRA signed by Jimmy Carter — I bet that was bipartisan as well.

So lets fire them all.


70 posted on 03/23/2009 11:40:54 AM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: 21twelve

That’s also my understanding.

Better yet, there were mortgages with no down payment, or where you got money back at the closing.

I wish I could run my personal finances that way.


71 posted on 03/23/2009 11:46:23 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Tarpon

“Yep, that’s how it works. One Republican and it’s bipartisan. Just like the granddaddy the CRA signed by Jimmy Carter — I bet that was bipartisan as well.

So lets fire them all.”

It had to have taken a few more than one republican to pass the repeal pushed by Clinton.


72 posted on 03/23/2009 11:49:20 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: 21twelve
Yeah, thats pretty much the way I understand it also. Insane.
73 posted on 03/23/2009 11:50:56 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Tarpon

Senate R-90 D-8 and by the House R-362 D-57


74 posted on 03/23/2009 11:59:10 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism

Those numbers look a little suspect.


75 posted on 03/23/2009 12:13:24 PM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: Tarpon
Historical facts can be disappointing. We should look to see who actually fixes the mistake, our people or some global entity.
76 posted on 03/23/2009 12:28:56 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: dennisw

“It is a major error to blame this all on the Government. Follow the money and see who made billions wrecking our financial system

Clue—It wasn’t Barney Frank or Chris Dodd. They were bit players”

Thanks for posting. Please add me to your ping list.

Here’s an article posted today about the ‘men behind the curtain’:
(CFR Corporate Members Get Lion’s Share of Bailout FUND)

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/commentary-mainmenu-43/915


77 posted on 03/23/2009 12:34:56 PM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: Realism

When did the Republicans ever have 90 Senators.


78 posted on 03/23/2009 1:18:22 PM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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Oops your absolutely right.

Senate:
Yes R-52 D-38 = 90
No - R-1 D-7 = 8

House:
Yes - R 207 D 155 = 362
No - R 5 D 51 = 57

Thats better

79 posted on 03/23/2009 3:11:32 PM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: Realism
Yep that's better, isn't that the usual ... both parties are in the same sinking boat with no principles to anchor to.

And Bush signed off on it.

Did you read what this ADDI 2003 crap was all about? You couple that with the fed making interest rates zero and Katy bar the door.

Around here there were illegal alien warm body fraud rings with the mortgage brokers taking out loans for the loan origination cash. The state is now prosecuting, but who couldn't see this coming. Only the Washington clowns.

80 posted on 03/23/2009 3:21:29 PM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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