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The Big Takeover -- How Wall Street insiders are using the bailout to stage a revolution
rollingstone ^ | Mar 19, 2009 12:49 PM | MATT TAIBBI

Posted on 03/23/2009 6:16:12 AM PDT by dennisw

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1 posted on 03/23/2009 6:16:12 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Dustbunny; JDoutrider; CottonBall; autumnraine; sickoflibs; April Lexington; ...

Doom and gloom ping list-—


3 posted on 03/23/2009 6:17:33 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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To: dennisw

I got as far as the short bald managers part and I felt deeply hurt.

I moved on. (Confidentially, I still see Brad Pitt).


4 posted on 03/23/2009 6:19:25 AM PDT by johnnycap
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To: dennisw

Article was removed because language is far from family-friendly.


5 posted on 03/23/2009 6:33:26 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: dennisw
Going Galt may be the only answer to save this country. The tax payers are being used as slaves. There are way too many people living off social programs these days. There's no reason why they couldn't have found their own jobs.

Secondly, we're also slaves to the world. Billions of welfare checks are sent overseas every year to the very nations that loath us and attack us.

I can't say what wall streets motives are, but I'd love to see the government beast starved to death, and be forced to end most of the social programs. They're wasteful and unnecessary, and no man should be used as another mans slave just so the democrats and world socialists can sleep all day and vote "correctly."

6 posted on 03/23/2009 6:34:47 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Well worth reading. A real eye opener.


7 posted on 03/23/2009 6:35:01 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: dennisw
So now we know, the Wall Street insiders forced the banks to make home loans that the borrowers had no way to repay. How clever. And here all along I though only government could write laws and issue stupid regulations.

More anti-capitalist drivel for the ignorants.

8 posted on 03/23/2009 6:35:24 AM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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Would it have been so bad if Goldman and AIG went under?


9 posted on 03/23/2009 6:39:23 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: Tarpon

“forced the banks to make home loans that the borrowers had no way to repay.”

Banks are private entities, how can they be forced?

You can add up everyone of those few bad loans and never come near the hundreds of trillions these financial institutions have lost.


10 posted on 03/23/2009 6:44:56 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: listenhillary

I don’t believe it. We have bancruptcy courts for that. Lehman Brothers is still basically functioning. They didn’t go up in a huge fireball spewing radioactive material to everyone within 50 miles.

“Good banks” would have bought up their good assets and would have become stronger which would have been their reward for practicing good business policies. As it is, they’re being left behind by the “bad banks” who just got massive cash injections. We’ve screwed up the whole system now, and I don’t see it getting better until we fix the flaw we created.


11 posted on 03/23/2009 6:48:23 AM PDT by villagerjoel ("Gun control is a prerequisite for genocide." - Unknown)
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To: Tarpon

It is a major error to blame this all on the Government. Follow the money and see who made billions wrecking our financial system

Clue—It wasn’t Barney Frank or Chris Dodd. They were bit players


12 posted on 03/23/2009 6:50:27 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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Some of the sliced, diced, pureed assets could have been problematic trying to track them down. The big issue I guess was foreign banks, foreign pensions, foreign governments(?) bought a belly full of this stuff.

Our government was supposed to be regulating them or at least keeping an eye on what they were doing. That didn’t happen and created a world holding the USA by the nads saying, you had better make good on this.


13 posted on 03/23/2009 6:54:11 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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Right, so the real issue is international poltics, not whether or not the free market would have adequately taken care of the problem.


14 posted on 03/23/2009 6:55:42 AM PDT by villagerjoel ("Gun control is a prerequisite for genocide." - Unknown)
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I don’t believe it. We have bancruptcy courts for that. Lehman Brothers is still basically functioning. They didn’t go up in a huge fireball spewing radioactive material to everyone within 50 miles.

Lehman's toxic assets and derivatives were sold off in a bankruptcy liquidation a few months ago and the total damage was about 4 billion which is pretty cheap in my book

AIG should have been forced into bankruptcy.
But it was bailed out meaning Goldman Sachs (12 billion) and other players like UBS and Deutsche Bank were bailed out

Why are taxpayers bailing out these Wall Street gamblers?

15 posted on 03/23/2009 6:55:44 AM PDT by dennisw (0bomo the subprime president)
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You might want to read section 2 again - The Regulators.


16 posted on 03/23/2009 6:56:12 AM PDT by listenhillary (Rahm Emmanuel slip - A crisis is a terrible thing to waste.)
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To: dennisw

great article


17 posted on 03/23/2009 6:57:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Realism
Banks are private entities, how can they be forced?

Simple, it's called banking regulations. Bawney's Fwank's specialty. In this case the banking regulations said you had to lend about 50% of your funds to otherwise unqualified borrowers. The new improved by Bill Clinton banking regulations says you cannot ask for proof of job, citizenship or have the borrower list any assets they have.

When the fed lowered the interest rate it all went wild.

The derivatives came from banks trying to unload and spread the risk, since most knew the loans would go bad.

Here is the video form.

The money was being made by the mortgage brokers, hence all the legal actions against same all over the place.

18 posted on 03/23/2009 6:57:06 AM PDT by Tarpon (It's a common fact, one can't be liberal and rational at the same time.)
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To: dennisw

This is Rolling Stone, people. Disregard please.


19 posted on 03/23/2009 6:57:26 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: WashingtonSource
Rolling Stone knows even less about industry than they do about music.

I know that's hard to believe, but it's true nonetheless.

20 posted on 03/23/2009 7:00:32 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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