Wikipedia misleads, smears about Obama citizenship "conspiracy theory"

24AheadDotCom ^ | 3/9/09 | self

[Michael Michael]

I thought McCain was born in Panama proper, not the Canal Zone.

According to McCain, and the "hospital" birth certificate he showed a Washington Post reporter in private (because he refused to release any copies of it), he was born in the small family hospital on the Coco Solo Naval Air Station.

The scanned images that have been floating around that people have been claiming to have been released by McCain, and which show him to have been born in the Colon Hospital in Colon, Panama, were in fact provided by a scammer named Donald Lamb, and were in fact used by Hollander in his eligibility lawsuit AGAINST McCain.

Here's a little blurb about Donald Lamb from The Panama News back in 2002:

Colon property owners file criminal charges against Lamb

The Urban Property Chamber of Colon, a group of business and land owners in the Atlantic side province, has filed criminal charges against Donald Lamb and several of his associates. Lamb heads a group of individuals who claim to own stock in the old Panama Railroad Company, which was taken over by the US government in the early part of the 20th century as part of the construction of the Panama Canal, and which was transferred to Panama under the 1977 Carter-Torrijos Treaties. Lamb and his followers claim that the 1904 and 1977 transfers were illegal and that they thus own vast stretches of property in the former Canal Zone. They have asserted their claims to such real estate as the ports of Cristobal and Coco Solo Norte by filing numerous lawsuits and registering claims to many properties. While in a few cases Lamb and his followers have prevailed in lower courts, such favorable judgments have been overruled on appeal. Last year, in response to Lamb's activities, the Supreme Court ordered the Registro Civil to eliminate all deeds in the former Canal Zone that do not derive from ARI's master deed. One provision of the controversial concession for Colon's multi-modal transport center requires the Panamanian government to indemnify the Consorcio San Lorenzo for any legal problems that Lamb's claims cause for the development. Now attorney Alberto Navarro has begun a legal counter-offensive on behalf of the Urban Property Chamber, accusing Lamb and his associates of falsifying documents, usurping lands, fraud, extortion and illicit association in their attempts to get money or land titles from chamber members Attia & Attia, Colon 2000, Rada SA, Nirzvi SA, Oficina Quijano, Victor Lum Lee and the Panama Canal Railway Company.

Nice, eh?

Actually there was far more of a "mystery" about McCain.

McCain refused to provide any copies (scanned images or photographs) of his "hospital" birth certificate to the public. He only showed the certificate in private, to at least the Washington Post reporter. And there was no record of his birth in the Canal Zone Health Department records.

Yet this seems to have completely escaped the attention of those who have been making such a fuss about Obama's birth for over a year now.

[lonewacko_dot_com]

All of your arguments that I scanned rest on a faulty assumption: that the COLB as pictured on BHO’s site is a true copy. Try to wrap your mind around the fact that what’s pictured on his site is just an alleged copy of his COLB. The state of Hawaii has not confirmed that it matches whatever they have on file.

There’s a very slight possibility that BHO did fake up the COLB as shown on his site. Just for the sake of argument, if we assume that he did do that, then your entire argument falls flat.

[Michael Michael]

All of your arguments that I scanned rest on a faulty assumption: that the COLB as pictured on BHO’s site is a true copy.

And I don't recall seeing even THAT much from any of other candidates in the race.

So let me get this straight. No other candidate offered up as much as Obama did. Not a peep out of anyone. Obama offered more than any of the other candidates offered up, only to be sued in federal court demanding he produce what no other candidate offered up.

Why? Because of an Internet rumor for which there was not one shred of credible evidence to support.

Try to wrap your mind around the fact that what’s pictured on his site is just an alleged copy of his COLB.

Have you seen the photographs?

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There’s a very slight possibility that BHO did fake up the COLB as shown on his site.

You're only able to say that because he DID put something up on his site in the first place. Which is more than any of the other candidates did that I'm aware of. So why wasn't anyone demanding that the other candidates put something up on their sites? Why did no one seem to care at all about the birth certificates of any of the other candidates?

Just for the sake of argument, if we assume that he did do that, then your entire argument falls flat.

You can make the same sort of assumption about anything, regarding anyone. So why is such an assumption only made with regard to Obama?

[Jo Nuvark]

Sickipedia... not to be trusted!

[curiosity]

The section at that page discussing a 1982 law that lets those born outside HI get valid birth certs falsely implies that Obama wouldn't be eligible under that law.

Okay, smart guy. Explain to me how exactly a law passed in 1982 could have allowed mama Obama to register a foriegn in 1961, as clearly indicated on his COLB.