Remember The Alamo! (166 Men Died For Freedom - March 6, 1836)

March 6, 2009 | Robert A Cook

[Jet Jaguar]

BTTT

[JimC214]

Cecil Adams has a leftist bent to a lot of his stuff.

[Jet Jaguar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL62m5umP4g

Marty Robbins - Ballad of the Alamo

[FlingWingFlyer]

I’m not a fan of revisionist history.

[Memphis Moe]

“
The park also boasts an interpretive trail which winds from Independence Hall, a replica of the original building where the signing of the Texas Declaration of Independence took place, to the historic Washington townsite. Work at the park will continue for the next year with the replication of Barrington Farm. The homestead of Anson Jones, the fourth and last president of the Republic of Texas, will include a two-story home that is being relocated from its present site behind the museum to the farm.”

http://www.birthplaceoftexas.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELBlwP1fRQU&feature=related

[txnativegop]

They have improved it since I was there last. When I go back home I will have to check it out.

[Jet Jaguar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOVFbsHDgd0&NR=1

The Alamo - The Green Leaves Of Summer - Original Soundtrack

[JimC214]

Neither am I. According to Mexican not American accounts, they lost a hell of a lot more then 300 men during the attack. Typically leftists try to down play anything that is revered in this country.

[Vigilanteman]

Cecil Adams account has a little truth mixed in with so much bullsh*t that it becomes difficult to separate the two. The basic fact is that Mexico had only won its independence from Spain a couple of decades earlier and couldn't convince much of anyone from the south of the Rio Grande to settle in what we now call Texas. Texas only begin to develop when outsiders were invited in and promised a degree of autonomy or what we Americans call liberty or state's rights.

All went well until the Texicans begin to prosper and were seen as a source of taxes and labor to shore up the corrupt empire of Santa Ana to the south. When the rights which they were guaranteed were repudiated by Santa Ana, the Texicans naturally declared independence.

Look at the list of the defenders of the Alamo and where they came from. They didn't all come from Texas and Tennessee and South Carolina. Some came from England and Germany and even Mexico to fight for the independence that they had declared.

The list needs to be printed and reviewed. What makes Texans special is the same thing that makes Americans special-- it is a way of thinking and a love of liberty, not an accident of birth.

[Professional Engineer]

Gentlemen,please remove your hats.

The Alamo is one of the most solemn places I’ve ever been.

[FlingWingFlyer]

Yeah. I was just reading something about this the other day. The article said that the low side was at least over 400 Mexican soldiers killed. I don’t know why the lefties feel they need to attack and destroy what happened at the Alamo. (Well, I really do. They hate America). Having said all that. The defenders at the Alamo gave Houston and his 910 Texicans the time needed to get their act together and form the army needed to stop Santa Anna at San Jacinto. The actual battle lasted approximately 20 minutes. Everything else is irrelevant.

[aposiopetic]

It just seemed appropriate to ping.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you!!!

[stickandrudder]

I asked everyone at work “What is today, March 6th?”

Sadly, no one knew.

Those who do not know history, are destined to repeat it.

[MadMax, the Grinning Reaper]

The story of Goliad needs to be told. From what I remember, they surrendered without a fight and then were massacred. I’ve seen figures for Goliad and another town at between 300-600 killed after surrending.

Gen. Santa Ana was captured during the Mexican-American War but was released, and never tried for his war crimes.

Sounds like Obama and Holder were running the country, even back then.

[Memphis Moe]

Alamo Defenders

The following list of Alamo defenders and birthplaces was obtained from the Daughters of the Republic of Texas Library at the Alamo, San Antonio, Texas.

Defender’s Name and Birthplace

Abamillo, Juan (Texas)

Allen, Robert (Virginia)

Andross, Miles DeForrest (Vermont)

Autry, Micajah (North Carolina)

Badillo, Juan A. (Texas)

Bailey, Peter James III (Kentucky)

Baker, Isaac G. (Arkansas)

Baker, William Charles M. (Missouri)

Ballentine, John J. (Pennsylvania)

Ballantine, Richard W. (Scotland)

Baugh, John J. (Virginia)

Bayliss, Joseph (Tennessee)

Blair, John (Tennessee)

Blair, Samuel (Tennessee)

Blazeby, William (England)

Bonham, James Butler (South Carolina)

Bourne, Daniel (England)

Bowie, James (Kentucky)

Bowman, Jesse B. (Tennessee)

Brown, George (England)

Brown, James (Pennsylvania)

Brown, Robert (Unknown)

Buchanan, James (Alabama)

Burns, Samuel E. (Ireland)

Butler, George, D. (Missouri)

Cain, John (Pennsylvania)

Campbell, Robert (Tennessee)

Carey, William R. (Virginia)

Clark, Charles Henry (Missouri)

Clark, M.B. (Mississippi)

Cloud, Daniel William (Kentucky)

Cochran, Robert E. (New Hampshire)

Cottle, George Washington (Missouri)

Courtman, Henry (Germany)

Crawford, Lemuel (South Carolina)

Crockett, David (Tennessee)

Crossman, Robert (Pennsylvania)

Cummings, David P. (Pennsylvania)

Cunningham, Robert (New York)

Darst, Jacob C. (Kentucky)

Davis, John (Kentucky)

Day, Freeman H.K. (Unknown)

Day, Jerry C. (Missouri)

Daymon, Squire (Tennessee)

Dearduff, William (Tennessee)

Dennison, Stephen (England or Ireland)

Despallier, Charles (Louisiana)

Dewall, Lewis (New York)

Dickinson, Almeron (Tennessee)

Dillard, John Henry (Tennessee)

Dimpkins, James R. (England)

Duvalt, Andrew (Ireland)

Espalier, Carlos (Texas)

Esparza, Gregorio (Texas)

Evans, Robert (Ireland)

Evans, Samuel B. (New York)

Ewing, James L. (Tennessee)

Faunterloy, William Keener (Kentucky)

Fishbaugh, William (Unknown)

Flanders, John (Massachusetts)

Floyd, Dolphin Ward (North Carolina)

Forsyth, John Hubbard (New York)

Fuentes, Antonio (Texas)

Fuqua, Galba (Alabama)

Garnett, William (Virginia)

Garrand, James W. (Louisiana)

Garrett, James Girard (Tennessee)

Garvin, John E. (Unknown)

Gaston, John E. (Kentucky)

George, James (Unknown)

Goodrich, John C. (Virginia)

Grimes, Albert Calvin (Georgia)

Guerrero, José María (Texas)

Gwynne, James C. (England)

Hannum, James (Pennsylvania)

Harris, John (Kentucky)

Harrison, Andrew Jackson (Tennessee)

Harrison, William B (Ohio)

Hawkins, Joseph M. (Ireland)

Hays, John M. (Tennessee)

Heiskell, Charles M. (Tennessee)

Herndon, Patrick Henry (Virginia)

Hersee, William Daniel (England)

Holland, Tapley (Ohio)

Holloway, Samuel (Pennsylvania)

Howell, William D. (Massachusetts)

Jackson, Thomas (Ireland)

Jackson, William Daniel (Kentucky)

Jameson, Green B. (Kentucky)

Jennings, Gordon C. (Pennsylvania)

Jimenes (Ximenes), Damacio (Texas)

Johnson, Lewis (Wales)

Johnson, William (Pennsylvania)

Jones, John (New York)

Kellog, John Benjamin (Kentucky)

Kenney, James (Virginia)

Kent, Andrew (Kentucky)

Kerr, Joseph (Louisiana)

Kimbell, George C. (Pennsylvania)

King, William Philip (Texas)

Lewis, William Irvine (Virginia)

Lightfoot, William J. (Virginia)

Lindley, Jonathan L. (Illinois)

Linn, William (Massachusetts)

Losoya, Toribio (Texas)

Main, George Washington (Unknown)

Malone, William T. (Georgia)

Marshall, William (Tennessee)

Martin, Albert (Rhode Island)

McCafferty, Edward (Unknown)

McCoy, Jesse (Tennessee)

McDowell, William (Pennsylvania)

McGee, James (Ireland)

McGregor, John (Scotland)

McKinney, Robert (Tennessee)

Melton, Eliel (Georgia)

Miller, Thomas R. (Tennessee)

Mills, William (Tennessee)

Millsaps, Isaac (Mississippi)

Mitchell, Edwin T. (Unknown)

Mitchell, Napoleon B. (Unknown)

Mitchusson, Edward F. (Virginia)

Moore, Robert B. (Virginia)

Moore, Willis A. (Mississippi)

Musselman, Robert (Ohio)

Nava, Andrés (Texas)

Neggan, George (South Carolina)

Nelson, Andrew M. (Tennessee)

Nelson, Edward (South Carolina)

Nelson, George (South Carolina)

Northcross, James (Virginia)

Nowlan, James (England)

Pagan, George (Unknown)

Parker, Christopher Adam (Unknown)

Parks, William (North Carolina)

Perry, Richardson (Texas)

Pollard, Amos (Massachusetts)

Reynolds, John Purdy (Pennsylvania)

Roberts, Thomas H. (Unknown)

Robertson, James Waters (Tennessee)

Robinson, Isaac (Scotland)

Rose, James M. (Ohio)

Rusk, Jackson J. (Ireland)

Rutherford, Joseph (Kentucky)

Ryan, Isaac (Louisiana)

Scurlock, Mial (North Carolina)

Sewell, Marcus L. (England)

Shied, Manson (Georgia)

Simmons, Cleveland Kinlock (South Carolina)

Smith, Andrew H. (Unknown)

Smith, Charles S. (Maryland)

Smith, Joshua G. (North Carolina)

Smith, William H. (Unknown)

Starr, Richard (England)

Stewart, James E. (England)

Stockton, Richard L. (New Jersey)

Summerlin, A. Spain (Tennessee)

Summers, William E. (Tennessee)

Sutherland, William DePriest (Unknown)

Taylor, Edward (Tennessee)

Taylor, George (Tennessee)

Taylor, James (Tennessee)

Taylor, William (Tennessee)

Thomas, B. Archer M. (Kentucky)

Thomas, Henry (Germany)

Thompson, Jesse G. (Arkansas)

Thomson, John W. (North Carolina)

Thruston, John, M. (Pennsylvania)

Trammel, Burke (Ireland)

Travis, William Barret (South Carolina)

Tumlinson, George W. (Missouri)

Tylee, James (New York)

Walker, Asa (Tennessee)

Walker, Jacob (Tennessee)

Ward, William B. (Ireland)

Warnell, Henry (Unknown)

Washington, Joseph G. (Kentucky)

Waters, Thomas (England)

Wells, William (Georgia)

White, Isaac (Alabama or Kentucky)

White, Robert (Unknown)

Williamson, Hiram James (Pennsylvania)

Wills, William (Unknown)

Wilson, David L. (Scotland)

Wilson, John (Pennsylvania)

Wolf, Anthony (Unknown)

Wright, Claiborne (North Carolina)

Zanco, Charles (Denmark)

John, a Black Freedman (Unknown)

[re_tail20]

I posted Adams’ account because up until recently, when I’d think of the Alamo, I’d only think of the rightful heroism of those brave Texans who chose to stay in that crumbling mission to face certain death against Santa Anna.

Most stories I heard about the Alamo gave short shrift to the background and focused on the heroism. This was reinforced for me the the 1960 “Alamo” film with John Wayne, which shows Mexican cannon artillery blasting the Alamo at the same time as the Mexican infantry charged. (i haven’t seen the 2004 movie version yet, so I don’t know about that one.)

Adams’ account was the first time I read that, in reality, there probably wasn’t any Mexican cannon at the time of the attack, and that it was just a brutal infantry charge on behalf of the Mexicans.

The Mexican army diary which Adams bases his account on also claimed, on hearsay, that Davy Crockett was one of the seven survivors captured at the end and that he went to his cold blooded execution by the Mexicans with no groveling like the brave man he was. It’s a matter of choosing which eyewitness to believe in matters like this, and I choose to believe the one cited earlier who said that Crockett died in hot blood fighting the Mexicans and his coonskin cap was at his side. Davy Crockett doesn’t come across as someone who would be among those captured seven men.

[Fiji Hill]

Too few remember the murdered down in South Texas in Goliad - who were killed after leaving their fort.

In 2000, while driving from Houston to San Antonio, I visited the Coleto Creek battlefield, in what is now Fannin, Texas, where those murdered at Goliad had surrendered, and was the only visitor.

By contrast, the Alamo had scores, if not hundreds of visitors. It gets arouund four million per year. While in San Antonio, I visited the other eighteenth-century missions on the Mission Trail.

While in Houston, I drove out to La Porte to visit the San Jacinto battlefield--a must for anyone visiting Houston..

[Philo-Junius]

There certainly could have been some “I’m Spartacus!” confusion at the end in an attempt to spare Crockett’s body from humiliation, or, equally, some other Texan hoping to be spared by claiming to be someone important.

[ansel12]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-jB0VvhjFg

Donovan singing his version of Remember The Alamo.