Darwin reader: Darwin’s racism

UD ^ | February 14, 2009 | Denyse O'Leary

[RFEngineer]

“You are mistaken. Very few people have the burning hatred and sheer force of will to become a Hitler. But I would argue that the Temple of Darwinistic Materialism paves the way for a Hitler, a Stalin, a Mao, a Chavez, an Ayers, an Obama, etc, etc.”

Ok, I’m glad you clarified that. People who believe in the science of evolution are not only Hitler, they are also materialists, Stalin, Mao, Chavez, Ayers, Obama.

It helps me to have this point clarified, otherwise I’d have thought you were simply being ridiculous.

[RFEngineer]

“I think the take away is that Darwin is not someone to be idolized.”

You are gifted in undertstatement! You may wish to temper the message, but it was quite clear - study/belief in evolution means you are Hitler. Study of science means the preaching the merits hatred and genocide.

This is why the fundamentalist agenda will never achieve political power outside of places like Afghanistan. Most fundmentalists/creationists are not as reasoned as you (though you fall short on calling out your fellow creation believers on their over-the-top rhetoric on this thread, so you seem, if I may be direct, a tad disingenuous)

Science is not faith, it never was, but that is the argument fundamentalists/creationists must have in order to create a “holy war” mentality amongst themselves.

Fundamentalists/creationists have to define a broad category of science as “Darwinism”. They have to elevate Darwin to false-idol status when science does no such thing.

The fundamentalists/creationists have to fight the non-existent philosophical fight with the dissembling that is evident by the most profligate creationist posters on this and the many other threads, and that is that ALL believers in science are Hilterian Stalinists that do not value life, except for the scientific artifacts it provides - and that they are all atheist and materialists.

It’s the Big Lie of creationism that must be preached at the exclusion of everything else. Within this framework a fundamentalist scientist cannot exists. A Christian Engineer is a contradiction.

So, thank you for attempting to portray an all-too-rare reasoned creationist view that admits that science isn’t evil. I think that was your point.

I apologize if I am too tough on you in this post, but the Big Creationist Lie, BCL, if you will, is alive and well on this and the many threads on the subject. It is shockingly Talibanesque.

[RFEngineer]

“Most fundmentalists/creationists are not as reasoned as you”

should be “Most fundmentalists/creationists ON THIS BOARD are not as reasoned as you”

Most fundamentalists I know, aren’t subscribers to the BCL.

[RFEngineer]

I read your tagline “Darwinism is Satanism”. Let me add “Satanism” into the definition of the “Big Creationist Lie”, or BCL for short.

“The Evo-atheists can’t stand the FACT that their big hero was a nobody who was an academic failure. He was a pathetic dabbler in a sea of professionals.”

Really? For him to raise such angst amongst you purveyors of the BCL, hundreds of years later he must have had SOMETHING going for him.

[Cedric]

Well stated.

Thanks.

[Cedric]

For someone who obviously fancies himself a master logician, your assertions are, I dare say, moronesque.

[ToGodBeTheGlory]

All God fearing people pay attention to the follows of Satan. The only thing that Darwin has going for him now is eternal fire. :)

[RFEngineer]

“For someone who obviously fancies himself a master logician, your assertions are, I dare say, moronesque.”

LOL.....I will let others judge me on this - but I will note that there is no shortage of morons on these BCL threads, present company surely not excluded.

[RFEngineer]

“All God fearing people pay attention to the follows of Satan. The only thing that Darwin has going for him now is eternal fire. :)”

Well, you have distilled the Big Creationist Lie, BCL, down to it’s basic element. My hat is off to you!

[ToGodBeTheGlory]

That should read “followers”

[Caramelgal]

Ok, I’m glad you clarified that. People who believe in the science of evolution are not only Hitler, they are also materialists, Stalin, Mao, Chavez, Ayers, Obama.

It helps me to have this point clarified, otherwise I’d have thought you were simply being ridiculous.

You obviously didn’t get the complete memo on the subject. :),

If you believe in the science of evolution or even if you are a Creationist but reject the idea of a 6,000 year old Earth, that the Earth is not the center of the Universe, that the Grand Canyon is not geological evidence of the Noah’s Flood, if you don’t believe that dinosaurs lived along side man, in the Garden of Eden and on Noah’s Ark, then you are not only Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Chavez, Ayers, Obama, then you are also a God Hater, a Satanist, an Atheist, a closet homo, a liberal, an NEA member, anti-American, anti-Christian, a fallen and or false Christian (or an idol worshipping Catholic) or an abortionist (and yes, I’ve been called all those names but being called an abortionist really took the cake.)

You see, in other words if you don’t subscribe to their religious beliefs, then you can’t possibly be a Conservative because some people around here have self defined Conservatism as being solely defined by the people who hold to a certain literalist interpretation of Genesis and the OT.

When they run out of rational arguments, all they have left is name calling.

[count-your-change]

Sounds like you’re reading into the Bible what you think it ought to say, which happens all the time.

[Cedric]

Gee, ya, you must be pretty much the smartest guy in the world and stuff, ‘cause you even like made up your own capitalized abbreviation and everything.

[wendy1946]

Study of science means the preaching the merits hatred and genocide.

Evoloserism is not science and Chuck Darwin was not a scientist. Evolution is a brain-dead ideological doctrine which has brought about two world wars and two political doctrines which are responsible for tens of millions of unnecessary human deaths. The doctrine itself is so far from rational thought and has been disproven so many times and so many ways that nobody with brains or talent is defending it any longer; it's being defended by academic dead wood and losers.

[RFEngineer]

“Gee, ya, you must be pretty much the smartest guy in the world and stuff, ‘cause you even like made up your own capitalized abbreviation and everything.”

Does it bother you?

[RFEngineer]

“The doctrine itself is so far from rational thought and has been disproven so many times and so many ways that nobody with brains or talent is defending it any longer; it’s being defended by academic dead wood and losers.”

I will simply take your own credentials as impeccable for this argument.

This is another facet of the BCL - science is wrong and immutable.

“it’s being defended by academic dead wood and losers.”

If that is the case - when it comes to science and the scientific process, with apologies to Beck: “Soy un perdedor”

[Cedric]

No, laughter is good for the soul.

[Cedric]

With apologies to Richie, “Yo no soy marinero.”

[varmintman]

You might want to watch Ben Stein’s movie. The interview with Dawkins definitively settles the question of whether there could be such a thing as an idiot with a 180 IQ.

[whattajoke]

‘The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life’

Is that what they're teaching you in church these days? It would help if whomever fed you that line actually read more than the title of the book and creationist websites.

Darwin's use of the word "races" was the common lingo of the time to describe different species. In fact, in the book you have never read, he discusses "races" of trees, birds, and barnacles.