Ron Paul: Israel had US OK for war on Gaza (Ron Paul sides with Hamas)

Press TV ^ | 1/5/09

[hedgetrimmer]

No attack, your own words illustrate the point.

[ejonesie22]

Fortunately there are many Conservative catholics that support Israel, I am friends with several...

Flip side, several of the "Hippie Methodist" from my crew are the same as this guy...

[NYC GOP Chick]

Yes, my words illustrate that Ron Paul is a vile creature. And somehow you connect that to communism. Same old incoherence and lack of education and skill where you are concerned.

Go annoy someone else.

[annalex]

Your remarks repeat objections made to me earlier in the thread. I urge you to read my earlier posts responding to them; if you have new material, or further questions, please post that. I am sorry we disagree, but I cannot make individual responses repetitively, since each post of mine generates too many from others.

[annalex]

Israel has made realistic efforts to do, including calling the homes ahead of time. To demand perfection is to relegate war to a theoretical exercise.

Good. I don't demand perfection, but I wish there were more results seen from such effort. As I made clear I understand there is no moral equivalence here, but of him to whom more is given, more is demanded.

[ejonesie22]

...since each post of mine generates too many from others.

Perhaps there is a reason for that...

[okie01]

Your remarks repeat objections made to me earlier in the thread.

So, if we have strong objections to your views, we should just shut up? Because it annoys you?

I'm sorry...but the level and intensity of the objections should suggest that you might reconsider your position.

You've been met by objections based on historical facts, common sense, reason and logic, plus experience. In contrast, your position seems to be solely predicated on your feelings.

That's OK. But it makes for a weak argument...

[hedgetrimmer]

Your words don’t illustrate anything. I am sorry that you declare affiliation with the GOP. It disgraces the party when members, if you are one, cannot hold a civil conversation on any issue.

[ejonesie22]

A position based on “feelings’...

Hum, sounds familiar, what political group is that associated with, i forget ;-)

[Pistolshot]

I am sorry we disagree, but I cannot make individual responses repetitively, since each post of mine generates too many from others.

Could it be that you are so very wrong on so many levels, that you cannot honestly defend your position?

[annalex]

I did not ask you to shut up, I explained why there will be no individual answer. I do read all that is posted to me, and if I see something of substance not raised before, I will answer.

[dalereed]

ron should go over there and stand in front of one of their tanks with a stop sign!!

[annalex]

I did defend my position among the first 200 posts on this thread; read them and if you have more questions, I’ll consider them.

[ejonesie22]

Perhaps he will win the Rachel Corrie Profiles in Stupidity award...

[luvadavi]

"...since each post of mine generates too many from others."

That's what you're after, I think.

[rmlew]

BNP Chairman Nick Griffin, a man once convicted of Holocaust denial, gave a better response to this than Pat "give Hamas aid" Buchanan and Ron Paul. Instead of shilling for the Islmists, he declres this to be none of Britain's business, but notes that Israel is fighting a savage common foe.
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/01/%E2%80%9Cisrael%E2%80%99s-gaza-affair%E2%80%9D-by-bnp-leader-nick-griffin/

[hocndoc]

You are wrong. At least in my case, the “repetitions” are, instead, refined arguments that you did not answer.

Just war is a goal of humans, especially for those of us who are Christians. However, the reason such discussions cause distress from even Aquinas and other historical thinkers, is because conditions and the evil of men can not be tied up in a pretty solution.

Just war theory as you have discussed it leaves out the humans who serve voluntarily or unvoluntarily as human shields. The intent and the actions should be weighed, as with the double effect in medicine.

However, in medicine the disease only assaults against one person. In war, the aggressor threatens many. The intent cannot be to harm children indiscriminately to shock the parents (as in terrorism). However, knowing that some children may be present due to the acts of the aggressor cannot halt the act of protecting one’s own children.

[facedown]

Perhaps he will win the Rachel Corrie Profiles in Stupidity award...

Nicknamed "The Pancake".

[ejonesie22]

But a really old and stale pancake...

[ejonesie22]

But a really old and stale pancake...