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Hamas's march to victory
Jerusalem Post ^ | 2 January, 2009 | Caroline Glick

Posted on 01/02/2009 10:09:23 AM PST by ScaniaBoy

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To: gogogodzilla

Why are you twisting my words? Because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on? I want Hamas destroyed, but I don’t want Palestinian women and children killed. That’s all I am saying, while YOU are saying they are your enemy too and you want them dead.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=84877

How about this little girl? Would you want to kill her too? Is she your mortal enemy?

Wake up, and start thinking out of the box a little bit, and also quit LYING about my posts.

Thank you.


21 posted on 01/04/2009 11:01:28 AM PST by deannadurbin
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Why are you twisting my words? Because you know you don’t have a leg to stand on? I want Hamas destroyed, but I don’t want Palestinian women and children killed. That’s all I am saying, while YOU are saying they are your enemy too and you want them dead.

I hate to break it too you, but you... in post #11 stated:

Hamas can spin it anyway they like. They are being decimated.

To which I replied (in post #12):

HAMAS has roughly 15,000 members in the Gaza Strip. Current Palestinian death toll is little over 300. Decimated? Really? I would view decimation as a death toll of 13-14,000... not 300.

*YOU* then injected the mention of women and children, including them into the total, as if HAMAS was some sort of country club. Furthermore, you stated that you believe that killing the leaership of an organization... in so many words, destroys it. Which is funny, considering that somehow that never worked with the Mafia, the Chinese Tongs, the Japanese Yakuza, or any of the Columbian drug-cartels.

Regardless, I did not address that point in my response (post #18):

15,000 is the number of armed ‘militants’.

You then went off on how killing women and children are bad, which wasn't the point of my argument in the first place. Proving that you believe that of the 15,000 armed militants that HAMAS claims to have in Gaza... that a good portion of them are women and children. Then you go on to state (post #19):

Of course I recognize the enemy and it’s NOT women and children. If you want to kill them because you think they are your enemy go over and join the Israeli army and start killing Palestinian women and children. Otherwise armchair boasts are just empty rhetoric. There is a way to victory over Hamas that does NOT include targeting women and children, who are as much victims of Hamas as the Israelis are.

Now, I not really sure why you wouldn't kill armed militants simply because they are women and children... Maybe you'd rather just die as they killed you, instead? After all, I did point out that HAMAS claimed 15,000 armed militants. Of which, *you* inferred that a portion of them *must* be women and children, to whom you have a problem killing. IE: you have a problem with the idea of killing an armed woman who might be attacking you.

My response in post #20 pointed that out.

Then why do you insist that (currently) 400~ HAMAS dead is a decimation? Why do you insist that, when I state there are (by HAMAS's count) 15,000 militants... you trot out women and children as part of that number? Why do you recoil from killing the militants?

And then you have the *GALL* to say I'm twisting your words?!? Then you trot out pictures of innocent children to, somehow, make a point?

Maybe other pictures might make more of an impact with you than words. Try these, instead:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54797

http://la.indymedia.org/uploads/2004/01/capt.jrl80101261410.mideast_hamas_bomber_jrl801.jpg

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/hezbollahkidsnazisalute.jpg

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/palestiniankids2.jpg

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/palestiniankidshamas.jpg

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There are many more. You have made it very clear that you find it reprehensible to consider killing women and children. While this wasn't the point I was making, I can definitely say that these children thank you.

22 posted on 01/04/2009 2:24:34 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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No, your response to me when I brought up Palestinian women and children was to stupidly retort that I wouldn’t recognize my enemy when it came to kill me. Dumb dumb dee dumb dumb DUMB.

Sorry, but I don’t think Palestinian women and children are my enemies. YOU do because you responded that I wouldn’t know my enemy, which is totally idiocy. There’s where we differ. HAMAS is my enemy, NOT women and children.

Enough. Any person with half a brain can see where you are coming from. You don’t care a fig if Palestinian women and children are killed. You think they are your enemies. I care about them as much as I care about Israeli children and women being killed. Not all Palestinians are Muslim, either, many are Catholics, and they’re being killed too. So think outside of the box, instead of by quoting talking points at Debbie’s site.

Toodles.


23 posted on 01/04/2009 7:16:24 PM PST by deannadurbin
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Again, no. I brought up that you would recognize the enemy for you believe women and children make up a chunk of HAMAS militants.

And that you wouldn’t kill them if they were, as they would be women and children.

Whether or not you believe me is irrelevent. I believe that is why I said it. You can feel free to think otherwise, but it does make it difficult to conduct any sort of discussion if, for arguments sake, you hear “Budgie” everytime I say “Wikipedia”.


24 posted on 01/05/2009 4:59:37 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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