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FBI records show more getting away with murder
Houston Chronicle/AP ^ | Dec. 8, 2008 | KAREN HAWKINS

Posted on 12/08/2008 4:13:06 PM PST by SwinneySwitch

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To: KoRn

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21 posted on 12/08/2008 6:24:49 PM PST by Glacier Honey
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To: IrishCatholic

police are like white blood cells.

they surround and expel victim cells, they don’t actually fix an infected cell.


22 posted on 12/08/2008 6:28:12 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IrishCatholic
When the JBT crowd here starts hammering the keyboard with their Second Amendment/don't need cops silliness I can't help to point out a gun won't find out who stole your car. It won't process the scene of a burglary.

I don't know about elsewhere but here the cops don't investigate burglaries or car theft. Hell, they don't even fingerprint the crooks. Seriously.

23 posted on 12/08/2008 6:32:06 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
That's a bit odd. The Feds have been building a data base for years and every state contributes. They have guidelines- as do states- on how criminal offenses are to be reported.
24 posted on 12/08/2008 7:59:16 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: weegee
“I’d chalk it up to a lack of will of prosecutors to go AFTER these criminals.”

They're talking about the “clearance rate,” not the “conviction rate.” If they solve a case, it's cleared, whether or not charges are even filed. Some are more strict with the definition and will only include cases where there has been an arrest, but most will close or “clear” a case if they solve it. They won't keep looking for the guy that killed OJ’s wife, for example, and they're not going to keep a case open where there is a killing and they know who did it but they know a jury would never convict because of the circumstances surrounding the killing so they elect not to even file charges.

Here's an old research paper on homicide clearance rates where you can read what “clearance rate” means in the introduction: http://www.policeforum.org/upload/Homicide%20Clearance%20Rates%20-%20Model_576683258_1229200516132.pdf

25 posted on 12/08/2008 10:06:21 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SwinneySwitch
“Population increased 60%.

Murders increased 224%!

God help us all!”

No, it's not that bad. The population has almost doubled and the number of homicides has almost tripled. Actually, we had a lot more murders in the past. There were 14,760 in 2007 compared to 14,881 in 1969 when we had a lot smaller population. There were over 20,000 in 1974, and over 23,000 homicides in 1980. Violent crime has actually gone down considerably in this country. The crime rate in general was higher when I was a little kid running around all over the place with little supervision like most other kids in the early 1970’s. Our kids are safer than people my age when we were kids but now everyone is lead to believe that things are just getting worse and worse and worse. I blame that on 24 hour news having nothing better to do that report constantly on crime because they have to fill so much time. That, and those in law enforcement and the prison industry and so on whose ever increasing funding depends on everybody being scared.

Here's a link to a table of homicide statistics from the DOJ from 1950 through 2005: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/totalstab.htm

26 posted on 12/08/2008 10:53:45 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: SmallGovRepub; SwinneySwitch

“There were 14,760 in 2007 compared to 14,881 in 1969...”

I got those numbers backwards. There were 14,760 homicides in 1969 compared to 14,881 in 2007, but of course our population grew a lot between 1969 and 2007 so the per capita murder rate was actually a good bit higher in 1969.


27 posted on 12/08/2008 10:57:08 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: weegee
To protect and serve? Not hardly.

Actually they do, their own interests, which may or may not align with the good of the people.
28 posted on 12/08/2008 11:00:00 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: B4Ranch
It seems that one can change the stats to meet perceived results
by just changing the year to fit an agenda. Are they just trying
to cover their butts by saying nothing can be done?
29 posted on 12/08/2008 11:05:54 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: MaxMax

“It seems that one can change the stats to meet perceived results by just changing the year to fit an agenda.”

Yeah, if you wanted it to look like crime has been reduced you’d point out that the number of homicides dropped from over 24,500 in 1993 to under 15,000 in 2007.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/totalstab.htm


30 posted on 12/08/2008 11:24:26 PM PST by SmallGovRepub
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To: MaxMax

YOU GOT IT. It all depends on what you are trying to do. Want to increase your budget, make it look frightening. Want to calm the public when the flood water are rising, make it look good.


31 posted on 12/09/2008 7:32:14 AM PST by B4Ranch ( Veterans: "There is no expiration date on our oath, to protect America from all enemies, ...")
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To: MaxMax; B4Ranch
In The Rio Grande Valley the gangs are getting stronger.

They do not fear the law. Being so close to an open border makes it easier for them. That part scares the victims and families, because they can just run across the border and get away with murder and kidnapping.

I remember a time I used to think what does it matter if its happening in Mexico.

We have them working and living in Our Country and now we've got their gangs here too.

from Olivia

32 posted on 12/09/2008 8:34:52 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (ObamaNation - beyond your expectations.)
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