Something is happening of historic proportions

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[Captain Beyond]

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[RobRoy]

You are (and Glenn is) preaching to the choir. I tend to see, more and more, Revelation 18 as speaking of the US. And verses 4 and 8 are of particular interest to me.

Rev 18:8
Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
death, mourning and famine.
She will be consumed by fire,
for mighty is the Lord God who judges her.

[LS]

As a historian, I don't think the changes are that massive. The role of the federal government is different, but the impact of the Panics of 1819 and 1837 were far worse proportionately. Since banks printed their own money in those days---and I have even tracked the note issues of at least 11 states prior to 1860---there is still no real means to judge what "inflation" was, since the economy was completely tied to gold. Hence, if gold (or silver) supplies suddenly rose (as they did from 1820-1832), you had rapid "inflation." If they suddenly declined (as they did in 1832-37), you had a crash.

A few things to keep in mind:

1) No U.S. government, ever---save for three brief recession periods of 3-4 years each---held the budget steady, let alone "cut" the size of government PER CAPITA. Did not happen. Thomas Jefferson, considered a "small government guy" authorized and supported a $10 million (!!) public works program when the ENTIRE federal budget wasn't $10 million. That would be equivalent to Obama proposing a $2-3 trillion single program.

2) The largest single bureaucracy before the Civil War was not the Army, but the U.S. Post Office, larger than the Army and Navy combined. Unlike today, it was entirely politicized and beholden to the President. This would be equivalent to making the U.S. military today political.

3) We had a 100% politicized media prior to Abraham Lincoln. While Lincoln is excoriated by libertarians as an "oppressive" president in his dealings with the press, in fact newspapers actually SHIFTED away from politicized news---wherein 80% of antebellum papers were solely and completely backed by a single party---to what we would call "News" news. They stopped being propaganda organs and began reporting news; they began to pay their own way through subscriptions, not political largesse; and they adopted real business models. By 1890, 80% of America's papers were NON-political.

4) We are moving away from inflation, not toward it. We have to remember that the Fed's great screw up in the Great Depression was to NOT inject sufficient currency into the system, thus causing a deflation from 1929-1932 in which one-third of the money supply disappeared. So far, despite the massive influx of money, there is no indication that we are heading toward inflation. Gold and oil remain reasonably low---and certainly aren't skyrocketing. The collapse of banks automatically shrinks the money supply by "destroying" dollars. This is the great threat, not Weimar-Germany type hyperinflation.

[LS]

Much of it is bogus. The correlations don’t work, the analysis flawed.

[islander-11]

Ping to re-read over and over...

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[tiki]

I truly believe that they think every human who doesn’t think like them is evil. If they really thought it was all human life that was evil and they REALLY, REALLY cared, they’d commit suicide.

[B4Ranch]

>That globalist socialists want America dead, and a socialist autocracy erected in its place to control every aspect of our daily lives.<

That globalist socialists want the Republic of America dead, and a socialist democratic autocracy erected in its place to control every aspect of our daily lives.

[truthguy]

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[Theophilus]

Ecclesiastes 12
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.

[pctech]

Actually it is belief that the passage to which you refer deals with the last days one world religious system, which is an accumulation of all the religions under one umbrella, probably headed up by Rome. I hope I am wrong about that, but too many teachers, old and new alike, predict it.

But, that being said, I do believe that the USA will be judged, and most severely. Look at what happened to Israel and Judah of old when they transgressed God's Law, and look at what the USA has done in the name of "tolerance," the murder of babies, the legalization (or soon to be) of immoral lifestyles, even trying to get Israel to give away their land. No country on the surface of the earth (except Israel) has been lifted so highly only to fall so lowly. If Israel can be given away into slavery because of their transgressions, how much can the USA?

[zeugma]

I have been telling my family and friends for nearly a year that this is how Adolf Hitler came to power. The real Oz behind the curtain is George Soros...

Actually, the real power behind this is muchbetter hidden than Soros, wbo is just one of their many tools.

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[UCANSEE2]

"Illiterate idiots do not matter."

They gave the popular election to Obama.

[Louis Foxwell]

So far on this thread no one has mentioned the slaughter of innocents, more than 50 million in our nation alone. The greatest holocaust in the history of civilization is followed by the darkest tyranny.
We have not begun to suffer the horror we have unleased.

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[WVKayaker]

scary isn’t a good enuff term!

[RightWhale]

We have spent two or more decades intentionally de-industrializing our economy

Sure, but American industrial output is stronger than ever, or was as of last week. However something has changed, and that is economic theory. Economic theory has changed completely and nobody is telling what it is now. Capital is no longer in industry, but in the finance industry, almost completely, and that is why Congress is propping up finance and GM et al. are getting crumbs.

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