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Religious Leaders: Churches Should be ‘Nonjudgmental’ about Behavior That Transmits HIV
CNSNews ^ | November 26, 2008 | Pete Winn

Posted on 11/26/2008 6:20:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

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1 posted on 11/26/2008 6:20:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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I wonder what *religion* this would be? The religion of moral relativism?


2 posted on 11/26/2008 6:24:28 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified DeCartes))
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Religious leaders and AIDS activists told CNSNNews.com Tuesday that labeling sex outside of marriage as sinful or having multiple partners as immoral behavior is “biased” – something society has “moved beyond.”

Religious leaders?? No. Followers of the secular and profane.

3 posted on 11/26/2008 6:25:33 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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And we should also be non-judmental about behavior that leads to drunk driving deaths, I suppose.


4 posted on 11/26/2008 6:25:39 PM PST by Notwithstanding (Obama/Biden: the "O" stands for Zero Executive Experience & Zero Accomplishments)
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“because it betrays a bias about what is moral and immoralA”

Bias based completely on the BIBLE....reverend (small case intended)


5 posted on 11/26/2008 6:26:44 PM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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I don’t say it is sinful, God does. Who am I to disagree with, God.


6 posted on 11/26/2008 6:27:58 PM PST by the_daug
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...it betrays a bias about what is moral and immoral...silly, even for a church leader - it says that any time one makes a moral judgment, one is practicing "bias" - surely this guy wouldn't resist the idea that murder is immoral, to take an obvious example, yet by his standards this would be a biased opinion - what he's really objecting to is that people make moral judgments about sexuality, which he wants to avoid.......
7 posted on 11/26/2008 6:28:25 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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WWJD?

“None of that has anything to do with what, as far as I know, all of the world’s religions share -- and that is to meet the needs of the people in any form of economic and physical distress for any reason,” Messinger told CNSNews.com.

Would He take this advice, or would He still say, "Go forth and sin no more?" [Rhetorical question. I believe I know the answer. This article suggests a different answer, from a perspective that claims to be Jewish. One of us is wrong.]

8 posted on 11/26/2008 6:28:53 PM PST by MathDoc (War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Obama is Good.)
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How about they be non judgemental on someone’s carbon footprint?

They would consider driving an SUV or Christmas tree lights immoral.


9 posted on 11/26/2008 6:30:23 PM PST by klamath ("Forced benevolence never was charity")
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Oh, yeah. I forgot the part about “If you are neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out.”


10 posted on 11/26/2008 6:31:02 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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...sex outside of marriage as sinful or having multiple partners as immoral behavior is “biased” – something society has “moved beyond.”

Some of society, but hardly all, and definitely not God have "moved beyond".

11 posted on 11/26/2008 6:31:16 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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The Rev. Michael Schuenemeyer

Advocate for the Harlot.

12 posted on 11/26/2008 6:33:18 PM PST by A message
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http://www.worldaidsday.org/


13 posted on 11/26/2008 6:33:21 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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The goats are bleating.


14 posted on 11/26/2008 6:34:29 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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“The Rev. Michael Schuenemeyer, executive for health and wholeness advocacy in the national offices of the United Church of Christ, said the church should be “nonjudgmental” when it comes to HIV/AIDS – and cited a recent workshop he attended as an example of how the Church should act.”

His church can be as non-judgmental as it wants. Trouble is, all evidence is that God is not as hip and with-it as the good reverend is. In any event, churches, properly constituted, are not judgmental. They are just passing on the word of the One who is.


15 posted on 11/26/2008 6:35:35 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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The Rev. Michael Schuenemeyer, executive for health and wholeness advocacy in the national offices of the United Church of Christ.

Proper punctuation would be-
The “Rev.” Michael Schuenemeyer, executive for “health” and “wholeness” advocacy in the national offices of the United “Church” of Christ.


16 posted on 11/26/2008 6:35:37 PM PST by Jonah Johansen ("Coming soon to a neighborhood near you")
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How dare anyone pass judgment on the walking dead that want to infect your children!

/s for the sarcasm impaired.

17 posted on 11/26/2008 6:40:40 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (I will stand with the Muslims ~B Hussein Obomunist ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Verito Possumus~Verified Sleeper!)
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I wonder what *religion* this would be? The religion of moral relativism?

If you want to you can stick a feather in its hat and call it macaronie. Whatever, it ain't the Law & Gospel taught by Jesus Christ. sin is real and it isn't "judgmental" to admonish sinners, it is tough Christian love.

Of course the UCC left the old-fashioned Jesus behind years ago, and this Jewish outfit quoted, who knows what the hell they believe in. It isn't Yahweh, that's for sure.

18 posted on 11/26/2008 6:45:21 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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I remember reading a few years ago a book by (iirc) Marvin Olasky about the history of charitable work in this country. Originally, charitable work and welfare were performed by religious groups and other private groups who made no bones about wanting people to turn their backs on their destructive behavior as a price for accessing their offers for benefits. (Even Christ, in talking to the woman taken in adultery, told her to go her way and sin no more.) But then as government took over, the benefits were decoupled from expectations of self-improvements except in a very minimal way. Today it is politically incorrect to tell people their life choices are evil, destructive, unhealthy or immoral. Now, apparently, people want private charity work to mirror that “non-judgmental” attitude of government welfare. Too bad. I view the immorality as more seriously detrimental to the long-term health of the person’s soul than the HIV infection itself.


19 posted on 11/26/2008 6:45:43 PM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things)
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(CNSNews.com) – Religious leaders and AIDS activists told CNSNNews.com Tuesday that labeling sex outside of marriage as sinful or having multiple partners as immoral behavior is “biased” – something society has “moved beyond.”

Beware of wolves in sheep's clothing! This is not what Jesus taught us about those who are sexually immoral.

If these "religious leaders" would take the cellophane off of their Holy Bibles, they would find out that not only does Matthew 18:15-17 show us that Jesus commanded that a congregation is ultimately not to associate with unrepentant sinners, but 1 Corinthians 5 shows that Paul wrote for that congregation to expel a *sexual* offender.

20 posted on 11/26/2008 6:46:19 PM PST by Amendment10
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