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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

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To: ZULU
If he's not eligible and he knows it....and the DNC knew it, there will be all sorts of federal charges of fraud, mail fraud, RICO act violations, FECA violations......hell, can't list more than those.

I can produce a birth certificate or a facsimile of it in 15 minutes. Got school records, college records, DD 214, Honorable Discharge from the military and a bona fide passport at hand as well. It's a requirement and not a big deal.

Not like turning over credit card numbers, bank accounts, social security number. And it's highly unlikely someone else would even try to steal his identity.
401 posted on 11/14/2008 11:44:07 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: Safrguns
If the party is truly responsible, notice how Dean quietly slips off the scene unnoticed.

I think he already resigned.

402 posted on 11/14/2008 11:44:45 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: thesetruths
...and that is going to go over real well after the “selected not elected” garbage we have had to listen to for 8 years

but I say, go for it!


Start the new chant: “Elected but not Selected!!!!”

Obama is a fraud. We need to order psychiatric testing for the 52% of Americans who voted for this flim flam artist. What were they thinking???

403 posted on 11/14/2008 11:46:35 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: El Gato
“Scottish law “

Are you thinking of Arlan Spector with his silly “NOT PROVEN”?

404 posted on 11/14/2008 11:47:00 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: April Lexington

Yup. Some drastic changes are going to have to be made in this regard, even at the state and local levels. Our state, TN, just had a revolutionary election. With an incoming GOP legislative majority for the first time since 1869, we’ll now be able to oust Democrat hacks occupying the statewide jobs, take control of every county election commission, change the election of judges, etc. As long as the Democrats controlled the legislature, their key source of power, and gerrymandered for years to prevent a GOP takeover (despite the fact the state has voted majority/plurality for Republican legislative candidates for 14 years), they controlled the state regardless of the party affiliation of the Governor. The Democrats (and their media propaganda arm) are now panic-stricken that we’re going to be getting rid of their hacks from top to bottom and begging US not to act in a partisan manner. 140 years, since Ulysses Grant’s election, they’ve kept their jackboot on our throats. It’s payback time.


405 posted on 11/14/2008 11:49:07 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: ellery

I don’t see how the Right would be discredited. The Right is simply asking for proof to satisfy Constitutional requirements. If there is proof, then Obama looks a bit irresponsible, IMHO.


406 posted on 11/14/2008 11:52:20 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Congratulations! We may have to come over and take some notes!


407 posted on 11/14/2008 11:53:49 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: April Lexington

That description of what would happen is incorrect.


408 posted on 11/14/2008 11:54:02 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: April Lexington
“Look, its not unconstitutional for the President to get, um, serviced, in the Oval Office. “

Along with all the other stuff (do I need to enumerate here and now as it was nearly what this board was about for 8 years?) that Bill did it was a chance to get him out.

No BJ’s are not unconstitutional but PERJURY before congress is. Bill and his family did plenty of that before and during the hearing.

If they really wanted to they could have gotten him, but they did not want to upset the scratch your back network.

409 posted on 11/14/2008 11:54:39 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: MWestMom

He has until Dec. 1st to respond to the suit. Nothing there that says he has to produce the birth certificate then.

Obama has to respond to the Petition for Writ of Certiorari by 1201/2008.

Presumably, he will ask SCOTUS to deny the petition, based on lack of standing - that is what he did in Circuit Court and Court of Appeals.

Then, Berg gets to respond to Obama’s response.

If SCOTUS denies Cert, then it is over. But, Obama would have to get ready for round 2 (Donofrio) and round 3 (Keyes). With 14 more in the pipeline ...

If SCOTUS grants Cert to Berg (or anyone in any subsequent case), then they can do one of two things:

1. They can remand back to the lower court for resolution. In which case, it would wind its way back to SCOTUS, since a decision (either way) would certainly be appealed all the way back to them.

2. They can assert original jurisdiction, bypassing the lower courts - since the case is coming back to them anyway. Also, the case is of national urgency.

Anyway, once the case is back at SCOTUS, the case would be argued and, presumably SCOTUS would order production of ALL related evidence (like BC, etc.).

The evidence would LIKELY undergo forensic analysis, results would be presented, legal precedence would be researched, chambers discusiion would likely occur, and a decision would be rendered.

If for Berg (or any other litigant, if Berg had already been denied) - Obama would be out.

If for Obama - Berg’s (or any other litigant’s) case is over. Then, presumably, ALL pending cases in ALL courts would be dismissed, including Donofrio and Keyes. Obama’s citizenship would have been established.


410 posted on 11/14/2008 11:55:09 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: FreeAtlanta
This is the saddest moment in American history since the Civil War.

I was thinking today that people haven't been so disillusioned in government since Nixon.

411 posted on 11/14/2008 11:57:27 PM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: arrogantsob
“When the Electoral votes are certified and delivered to Cheney any Rep. and Senator can object.”

Not one January 22 they can't. Then it does become an impeachment hearing. Now are you telling me that after bHo is sworn in they will do anything? Really?

It will be an MSM led destruction crew on the Republicans, and (like during Clinton's time in office) the public will not push for anything. 3/4s or more who don't want to be bothered "with all that political stuff".

I doubt even if the court takes this up they will not finish until well into the following summer or next year. The electoral votes will not matter at that time.

412 posted on 11/15/2008 12:03:38 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: JSteff

one should be “on”


413 posted on 11/15/2008 12:04:37 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: April Lexington

Elections have been fraudulently run for centuries here to elect Democrats. Burr was one of the first in NYC to use ineligible voters to sway elections and his organization, Tammaney Hall dominated NY politics for the next century reaching unbelievable heights of corruption.

Some states early on even allowed illegal aliens to vote. Gangs roamed the streets beating opponents daring to vote the wrong way. There was no secret ballot. Our history is not what many think.

See the movie “Gangs of New York” for a great example of how it was done circa 1860. Your “Hill Billy party” was created through the NY-Virginia alliance formed by Jefferson and Burr prior to 1800 and has always dominated the big cities throughout the nation.

The party has always been associated with corruption and class warfare even producing a Civil War rather than abide by the Constitution.


414 posted on 11/15/2008 12:09:34 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: antceecee

Right it was stupifyingly stupid of the Senate to try such a stunt.


415 posted on 11/15/2008 12:14:43 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: El Gato

Who’s to say the will of the people wouldn’t have been different if they knew Obama wasn’t a natural born citizen?


416 posted on 11/15/2008 12:16:06 AM PST by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: TheThinker

Some people think we discredit ourselves when we don’t lick the Overlord’s boots fast enough. Some apparently are willing to accept any enormity. It gets easier to understand how Hitler was able to murder millions when attitudes like this surface.


417 posted on 11/15/2008 12:18:52 AM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: Safrguns

“Not a peep out of MSM”
Nor Fox or any other radio or TV networks
mmmmmmmm


418 posted on 11/15/2008 12:19:27 AM PST by LittleMoe
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To: TheThinker

And since they didn’t, that argument can’t be made...that he was chosen anyway....correct?


419 posted on 11/15/2008 12:19:38 AM PST by thesetruths
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To: arrogantsob

Stupefying stupid senatorial saps.

Great alliteration.


420 posted on 11/15/2008 12:21:29 AM PST by antceecee (Palin '2012' Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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