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Do we need to rethink the primary process?
11/5/08 | republicanprofessor

Posted on 11/05/2008 3:44:44 AM PST by Republicanprofessor

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To: Billy Bud
I think you are mostly correct. However, Obama didn't really convince anyone of anything regarding his own personal qualifications. Let's be honest... His votes we based on mostly 3 things, and most likely in this order:

1) A hatred for Bush

2) Being able to falsely blame the economy on republicans in general

3) Race

Of course, there were also other factors, I am convinced voter fraud is in play in large numbers here, campaign donations from foreign entities made up huge sums of his cash pool, and telling huge lies that he has not been held accountable for (yet) play a big role as well.

Above all, the party has done this to itself over the past few years by running and electing moderates and liberals on the R ticket. It must stop or we are doomed as a party. I am just hoping this is the wake up call and the lesson is learned. We won't know the answer for about 3 more years.

We MUST somehow reform some things. Acorn and anything that even resembles Acorn needs to be dismantled and people need to be prosecuted in large numbers for their roles in these frauds. Voter ID laws need to be a mandatory part of the election process and that includes no free ID’s for non-citizens or illegals. And although I have no answers on how to accomplish it and still not hinder free speech, the media needs to be held accountable for their lack of responsibility here. They infused the public with twisted “reporting” and “news” for 2 years on this race. One could argue that we simply need smart voters who don’t fall for this, but unfortunately, you can’t fix stupid. Liberals depend on it to win elections. They pushed a guy who is just short of a damn criminal into the white house. All the rules went out the window; I am still in a state of disbelief. If McCain had the connections and past that barry has, he would have been burned at the stake a year ago, and that is a serious injustice.

We can all armchair this into the dirt and say why, what if, and blame whoever or whatever, but until we get back to our real conservative values, the thing we hold dearest, this train wreck will continue.

21 posted on 11/05/2008 4:32:14 AM PST by FunkyZero
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To: Republicanprofessor
We need to rethink America's version of democracy. Beginning in the last century our government stopped working for the people and began working to enlarge itself and its influence over our lives.

When one of our lousy politicians talks about creating jobs he really means adding positions to government.

In the past twelve months over 300,000 new employees were added to government.

Incidentally, the election of this dangerous communist as president allied with his communist buddies in Congress, is truly shoving America into its last days. This government is ripe for revolution.

22 posted on 11/05/2008 4:48:30 AM PST by IbJensen (Obombazombies have given America to the Communists!)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Iowa has become an albatross around the neck for Republicans, and the GOP should begin by tossing their current “first in the nation” caucus status in the toilet. Stop reinforcing failure.

Base caucus/primary order on statewide party electoral success in the last general election, and ensure no crossover voting. Then lean on the RINOs to leave for indy or donk pastures where they can F up the socialists’ plans instead of the conservatives’ plans.


23 posted on 11/05/2008 4:49:32 AM PST by niteowl77 (The niteowl77s: parents who support those who support their soldier.)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Absolutely. McCain became the presumptive nominee of the party with just 31% of the vote. We should eliminate winner take all primaries and open primaries [if possible]. We must have a nominee of the party that enjoys the support of most of the party. Any party that nominates a self-described maverick to be its standard bearer deserves to lose.


24 posted on 11/05/2008 4:56:41 AM PST by kabar
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To: EBH
The 0bama win is not necessarily due to our weak candidate. The base was energized and I am comfortable they came out to vote too.

We will have to take a look at the total vote numbers, but the way it looks now, the total vote will not surpass the Bush-Kerry race, which Bush won 62 million to 59 million. So I wonder how energized the base really was.

25 posted on 11/05/2008 4:59:55 AM PST by kabar
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To: Republicanprofessor

Heck yeah

The democrats selected our candidate for us. All primaries should be only for those registered to the party. Either that, or we should all register as democrats for the next primary and give them Dennis Kuchinich as their candidate.


26 posted on 11/05/2008 5:04:14 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Republicanprofessor

At least you had a candidate in the primary.
I voted absentee for Palin in the general, but I was SOL in the primary.
The party better do a better job of recruiting women and minorities if they want to win another election. Palin and Jindal are a great start. They need to build on that and leave behind the polished RINOS.


27 posted on 11/05/2008 5:06:26 AM PST by mabelkitty (Obama is the ILLEGAL PRESIDENT until I see proof of his American birth)
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To: Republicanprofessor

Well, I’m going to come out and say it: I don’t think we had any guys who seriously wanted to run that were both acceptable to the conservative base and had a snowball’s chance of winning.

We had a failure in having viable candidates. THAT’S something we really, really have to work on...encouraging leadership.

When Palin showed up as VP choice all of a sudden people got energized...but it wasn’t early enough. We need that type of excitement and motivation early.

And we need people with a whole lot better sense of strategy about getting the message out than McCain had.


28 posted on 11/05/2008 5:07:21 AM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Republicanprofessor

“Conservative like Romney”?????????????????? You must be joking. Please start new here and not try to sell the snake oil - we need to start being honest if we ever plan on winning on ideas. I agree we need to hold the primaries FIRST in the conservative states not the liberal northease and Iowa.


29 posted on 11/05/2008 5:08:18 AM PST by sasafras (Dont be fooled - the DIVERSITY MANTRA - is the left's tool to incite hate, racism and division)
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To: jospehm20
Yes. The open primary thing needs to go away.

Yup. You nailed one of the big things.

What I'd like to see is for the governors of all 50 states get together, and do a drawing for primary dates. Having so many liberal states front-loaded is not good at all for conservatives.

30 posted on 11/05/2008 6:30:04 AM PST by zeugma (Mark Steyn For Global Dictator!)
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To: acsuc99

Anyone who thinks Romney, Thompson, Giuliani, or Huckabee were gonna beat Obama being outspent 6 to 1 and getting 80% negative press compared to the fawning adoring coverage Obama received is crazy.

No Republican will ever win unless they can go around the media and connect to the people like Reagen and even Bush did.


FDT was lackluster against his fellow FOP, but he could have beaten the MSM (and Obama).


31 posted on 11/05/2008 6:44:07 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Politicians, like diapers, should be changed often. And for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: Carley

I would really like to have the party decide how the primary races to choose it’s candidates are run. Why should Democrat crossover voters in a few states help decidee who the candidate for the entire party is?


32 posted on 11/05/2008 7:58:43 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Republicanprofessor

Great post, i think your idea is a good one.

Key part of recovery is reforming the primary process so only republicans vote.


33 posted on 11/05/2008 9:59:02 PM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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