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No more Bush I's. No more Doles. No Bush II's. No McCain's. Toward the Next Reagan/Thatcher?
quesney

Posted on 11/04/2008 10:23:01 PM PST by quesney

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To: johnthebaptistmoore
no one takes these things harder than I do....that's why I am on the computer right now....

but a couple of things.....I really do believe we have found our way....Bush...God love him...but he has left us high and dry.....he wasn't good for us and infact in many ways, he hurt our cause in so many ways....( prescription drug plan!)

we have found some leaders...Sarah Palin...Fred and Rudy are going to be excellent senior statesmen....I was impressed with those that fought the bailout....I am impressed with many here...

secondly......do what I did.....several weeks ago a downloaded an application for a license in Alaska ( I'm a nurse) and even though it is probably just a pipe dream, its there....I tell myself if things go badly down here, we'll just move and live simply and quietly and freely in alaska.....just the thought of that helps me deal with this whole debacle.

IOWS.....find yourself an "out" to quiet the anxiety.....maybe even just thinking of a different job....maybe just the thought of moving far out in the country somewhere might soothe you a bit...

61 posted on 11/05/2008 2:56:06 AM PST by cherry
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To: quesney

Yes but McCain and Dole had been in the party plugging along for so long. It “was their times”.
Sounds like a load of hooey to me.
Time to get real with turd RINOs. Time to either return to real conservatism and not just can’t we all just get along b.s. or time to start a new, real, conservative party.
Enoough of these old fools.


62 posted on 11/05/2008 3:11:34 AM PST by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: quesney

Well, it will take a real leader who has a political vision for America. A Reaganesque conservative. An American.


63 posted on 11/05/2008 4:07:26 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: daniel885

Brilliant strategy

For the next year really, we shouldn’t hear very much from Republicans

Let the liberals spin their own messy web. We just need to sit back, rebuild the infrastructure and re-tool the message

The message won’t change ever, we are for liberty and small government, we just need to re-tool it to respond to President Obama


64 posted on 11/05/2008 4:47:15 AM PST by MadIsh32 (The token Muslim :))
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To: lentulusgracchus

No, Fred’s day has come and gone... PLEASE everyone stop looking backward to the has-beens in the party and look forward. I’m going with Sarah if she runs.


65 posted on 11/05/2008 10:25:56 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Joe Boucher
NO MORE SENATORS!!!

We need to identify and elect conservative Republican governors... starting with states like AZ in 2010... and no more family dynasties.

66 posted on 11/05/2008 10:29:03 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: pnh102
First, we need to scrap the current primary system for the GOP.

Yep. Although I'm convinced we need a national primary day or four rotating regional primaries.
67 posted on 11/05/2008 10:39:42 AM PST by mysterio
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To: GaryLee1990
What about Duncan Hunter???

While I like Duncan Hunter a great deal, he needs to be governor or have some other executive experience first before I'd support him. I think an underplayed part of McCains' defeat is that he was a Washington insider who was incapable of effectively attacking Democrats for the financial issues because (1) he was part of the problem; and (2) these guys are his friends.

As mentioned here and elsewhere - our candidates should always, always, always come from governors (past or present).

68 posted on 11/05/2008 10:40:44 AM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
We need to identify and elect conservative Republican governors

You have a political problem there.

Theodore White referred to it in his Making of the President series.

The problem is that GOP governors have tended to be RiNO's, because they have been concerned first with running executive departments. So they think in terms of budget dollars and being able to "do more" -- and that is an inherently liberal bias. They aren't concerned with conserving society's values, but with transacting a ground-game agenda centered on, guess what, social services.

Theodore White's way of putting it was that the problems of running a state executive branch naturally inclines governors to see the "wisdom" of being liberal RiNO's and doing things the liberal, RiNO way. Which was fine with White and the rest of the termites.

69 posted on 11/05/2008 11:00:59 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: GreatOne
While I like Duncan Hunter a great deal, he needs to be governor or have some other executive experience first before I'd support him.

There are relatively few governors who are true conservatives, as conservative as Sarah Palin. The rest get traduced by the incentives of the budget dollar-chase.

James Q. Wilson, the conservative political essayist, pointed out years ago how liberals used foundation money at first, and then under LBJ federal program dollars, to "train" administrators to be liberals, by dangling those program dollars in front of them constantly. Marginal dollars are the mother's milk of politics, and liberals clustered around and got control of the marginal-dollar sources.

A high priority has to be placed on an area we've neglected for 60 years: Chasing liberals away from the sources of political dollars and marginal program dollars like fund matches, and the NGO foundation boards that allocate them.

We have to purge the NGO's, even the liberal NGO's, or put them out of business. We have to neutralize their sources of program money and political money. They've been bribing governors and mayors to be liberals like them, for 60-70 years now.

70 posted on 11/05/2008 11:06:52 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Hey, Carolyn, the backstabbing on Palin has already begun (or rather, it ain't stopping):

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/History-suggests-Sarah-Palins-political/story.aspx?guid=%7B4E4155EC%2DF64B%2D4980%2DB481%2D5EF3E2C6DD15%7D

71 posted on 11/05/2008 2:38:57 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Did you hear the whole spiel on Fox this afternoon (Brit’s show)... they are trying to make her the fall girl... not going to play in my house.


72 posted on 11/05/2008 4:40:04 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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This from my stepson who lives in Chicago and voted for McCain: “I’m not sure we can attribute the market to Obama yet but more on the ADP numbers. Notice I said yet. I am not optimistic and in fact, I am angry. I hope America gets what it deserves. Obama has done nothing but drive how much resentment this country has for me, my family, and my success. If you are successful, you are evil, not patriotic, and you aren’t carrying enough of the load. I am sick to my stomach. I feel like success must be punished. I feel like everyone else thinks they are entitled to my success. I have never felt less American in my whole life. I’m an outsider in my own country.”

This guy is in his 30’s and very successful. He worked on getting votes for McCain. Yes we do need to find the right conservative to take back our country. I pray we can take it back, tonight I am not feeling it is even possible. When my own Rep county votes for a Socialist I am dumb struck.


73 posted on 11/05/2008 4:52:53 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: ohiogrammy

Geeze, even Bill O’Reilly seems concerned tonight, I guess Move-on issues their four year edict today.


74 posted on 11/05/2008 5:39:47 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: GaryLee1990

NO!!!! Forget everyone that ran in the primaries this year.. not one of them ignited the party and this is what led to us being so fragmented and electing McCain by default...


75 posted on 11/05/2008 5:41:25 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: RedPriest73

no personality.


76 posted on 11/05/2008 5:42:44 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yeah, what did he say they gave him, $800 million? Talk about pay back...


77 posted on 11/05/2008 5:56:18 PM PST by ohiogrammy (12)
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To: quesney

RON PAUL! (Runs and hides)


78 posted on 11/05/2008 6:00:04 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ohiogrammy
I am 53 years old and a Christian pastor who has shed tears at the playing of "America The Beautiful," and "The Star Spangled Banner" on many occasions. For the first time in my life I can say, "I AM NO LONGER PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN."
79 posted on 11/05/2008 6:05:43 PM PST by evangmlw
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Did you hear the whole spiel on Fox this afternoon (Brit’s show)...

No, I didn't have the pleasure. But I wonder where these guys can be getting this stuff except Obama oppo (by the way, someone is still trying to make a stink in Alaska -- they're surfacing another story).

The comments following the MarketWatch story (mostly by New Yorkers) were brutal and largely unreflective echoes of campaign rhetoric from the Drive-Bys. Those guys want her dead, dead, dead, and buried under a crossroads.

The story doesn't parse, though -- the exception they cited was Franklin D. Roosevelt. So much for "failure"!

She's a charismatic leader who can unite and rally the Right, which is to say, the guts of the GOP, and she can lead us to go out and conquer in 2012.

80 posted on 11/06/2008 1:45:56 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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