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Obama Citizenship - Another Focus
from Philip J. Berg lawsuit

Posted on 10/24/2008 3:51:45 PM PDT by Fithal the Wise

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To: ridesthemiles
I heard a hospital was named in one of his books - I need to check, but I found this (citing Berg):

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/3074

"There is also a discrepancy in what hospital Barack Hussein Obama was born in, even if he was born in Hawaii. Reports by his own sister in two separate interviews state that he was born at two different hospitals -- Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu."

101 posted on 10/24/2008 5:32:30 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Fithal the Wise

Conservatives care about ‘following rules.’ Liberals don’t, except when the rules can be used to repress conservatives.


102 posted on 10/24/2008 5:36:40 PM PDT by informavoracious (Oust all incumbents.)
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To: All
This hospital's been around for awhile...

http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/default.aspx


103 posted on 10/24/2008 5:37:08 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: All
The other hospital cited has also been around for awhile. I recall hearing (Berg's video?) that one of the two hospitals mentioned by Obama and/or his sister did not exist in 1961. I'll track that down.

At any rate, in one of these hospitals may or may not be the records we seek. I assume a Congressional subpoena in support of the certification of Electoral Votes would have the authority to extract the records - if they exist.

http://www.queens.org/about/history.html

"The Queen's Hospital, now called The Queen's Medical Center, was founded in 1859 by Queen Emma and King Kamehameha IV."

104 posted on 10/24/2008 5:42:56 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: All
http://www.queens.org/patient/records.html

Patient Information

Reproduction of Medical Records

All requests for Medical Information must be made in writing to Queen's Medical Records Department, Release of Medical Information Section. (The Medical Records department does not have radiology films or billing records.)

You may download the "Authorization to Release Medical Information" form (available in PDF) to print a hard copy and then complete. All requests for Medical Information must be accompanied by this form and signed by the patient, legal guardian or next of kin.

Mail completed and signed authorization form to:

       The Queen's Medical Center
       Medical Records Department
       1301 Punchbowl Street
       Honolulu, HI 96813

The completed form may also be FAXed to 808.537.7806. If you have any questions, please call The Queen's Medical Records department, Release of Medical Information Section, during regular business hours, Monday through Friday, 8:00 am to 4:00 pm.

Patient Request (for personal use)
Charges for copies:
   $.25 per page for hard copies
   $.50 Per page for records that are on microfilm
Prepayment Required

There is no charge for physicians and other health care facilities (for direct patient care) if sent directly to a physician or health care facility and requested by them. If a patient requests that information to be sent to the physician or health care facility at the direction of the health provider, it will first be verified before any records are sent.

All other requests are billed directly to the receiver of the medical records (e.g. attorneys, vocational rehabilitation, etc.). For personal and out-of-state requests, fees must be paid in advance.

105 posted on 10/24/2008 5:47:04 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: All
http://www.queens.org/services/pdf/mat_birthcertificate.pdf
106 posted on 10/24/2008 5:56:29 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Fithal the Wise

WHY doesn’t someone ask the GRANDMA in HAWAII WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN????? SHE KNOWS......Good freaking grief....wher’s the PRESS....they talk about Bush being UN-CURIOUS! THIS would be the BIGGEST STORY of their career!


107 posted on 10/24/2008 5:57:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
WHY doesn’t someone ask the GRANDMA in HAWAII WHERE OBAMA WAS BORN????? SHE KNOWS......Good freaking grief....wher’s the PRESS....they talk about Bush being UN-CURIOUS! THIS would be the BIGGEST STORY of their career!

The gatekeepers won't let you. I'm sure all questions are vetted. Now she is 'sick' and 'has a broken hip' and 'may not survive until the election'.

Or she may be in cahoots with her 'brilliant' grandson.

108 posted on 10/24/2008 6:02:59 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald

The press really sucks.


109 posted on 10/24/2008 6:07:53 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Churchillspirit

“Yes, you can lose US citizenship.”

How?

Please explain and source.


110 posted on 10/24/2008 6:10:18 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: FreedBird

True.


111 posted on 10/24/2008 6:10:25 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: Frantzie
and he is not a citizen

The State Department does not normally issue US passports to noncitizens.

112 posted on 10/24/2008 6:18:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered...the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph)
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To: kabar

You are correct.

By the way, the Dual Nationality article is on target. I know because of my own birth.


113 posted on 10/24/2008 6:23:25 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

It is USG/State Department policy based on the law.


114 posted on 10/24/2008 6:24:56 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Do you have any further information on how a 20 year old American student entered and exited a country with a ban on Americans entering (except in case of business)? Or how about his Occidental transcripts? Do you have info on how an American, 18 year old freshman was assigned to share a room with 2 foreign, muslim students? Or maybe he was in school as foreign student himself. The point is-— we don’t know. And we don’t know because Obama does not want us to know and thinks he above any and all questions. That is scary!


115 posted on 10/24/2008 6:25:34 PM PDT by gulf1609
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To: cynwoody

“You have appear in front of a US consular officer as an adult and swear that you intend to renounce your citizenship.”

And continue to pay U.S. taxes for at least the next 10 years after that.


116 posted on 10/24/2008 6:28:17 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: gulf1609
Do you have any further information on how a 20 year old American student entered and exited a country with a ban on Americans entering (except in case of business)?

If you are referring to Pakistan, there was no ban on US citizens entering Paskistan. There were State Department travel advisories warning amcits about the dangers involved. Our Embassy was burned down in 1979 in Islamabad among other things. I know because I travelled to Pakistan three times during the period 1979 to 1981.

Or how about his Occidental transcripts?

I guess you could add his Columbia and Harvard transcripts. He has not released those either.

Do you have info on how an American, 18 year old freshman was assigned to share a room with 2 foreign, muslim students?

No do you? Old friends recall Obama's college years

Or maybe he was in school as foreign student himself. The point is-— we don’t know.

If we was in school as a foreign student, he would have to apply from his home country and get a student visa issed by our embassy.

The point is-— we don’t know. And we don’t know because Obama does not want us to know and thinks he above any and all questions. That is scary!

I admit there is a lot we don't know about him, but when people start making wild, unsubstantiated accusations, it really is unproductive. The Obama camp can just pick out a few of the more extreme ones and discredit them thereby removing all of them. Claiming that Obama travelled on an Indonesian passport to Pakistan is one of those.

117 posted on 10/24/2008 6:37:16 PM PDT by kabar
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To: gulf1609

“But Obama, by traveling on an Indonesian passport at the age of 20, would have had to renounce his US citizenship”

A little lesson in foreign studies (politics)…A country does not know if one has more than one passport…period.

The only way that country would know if the person blabbed it to them.


118 posted on 10/24/2008 6:39:28 PM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: freekitty
What would we do with out MSM? I don't have a clue.

Most people only believe it's true if it's on a front page.

Hopefully there could be a legitimate news outlet that delivered
news only and not the unwanted opinion of the newscaster. Leave that up to commentaries and talk radio. Oh, I forgot the dominating left don't want either.

They want to silence all opposition so if Zero gets in there will be no opposition at all. Freedom of speech for any opposing party will be considered “hate”

We have an uphill fight thanks to all the ignorants who will no doubt live to regret their devotion to the devil.

Fortunately, I probably won't be here to see it.

119 posted on 10/24/2008 6:40:31 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a Bill Ayers Weather Underground Associate)
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