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So, why is it taking so long? What is the judge waiting for? (Berg vs Obama)
Americas Right ^ | 10/19/08 | Jeff Schrieber

Posted on 10/19/2008 7:42:40 PM PDT by NoobRep

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To: ZULU

The point of filing the case in Pennsylvania is a) Berg lives in Pennsylvania (is the former deputy attorney general of PA) and b) If 0bama is disqualified from the ballot in Pennsylvania, he cannot win. 0bama isn’t expected to win Montana, so ballot disqualification there would have zero impact on the election.


21 posted on 10/19/2008 8:12:41 PM PDT by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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To: bIlluminati
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.’s marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid because he was already married.

There is no proof of this and no records of a prior marriage Just because Barack said this does not make it so. The divorce filings in 1964 do not reflect this, either.

22 posted on 10/19/2008 8:13:29 PM PDT by Shady Ray
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
I get creepy over “standing”...A voter has no right to know whether he is voting for a legit candidate??? A pox on lawyers and judges.

If it is not a hoax, it will interesting to learn what Michell Ma Bell Obama had to say to API about his adoption of his Indonesian stepfather Lolo Soetoro!!!

23 posted on 10/19/2008 8:15:26 PM PDT by danamco
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To: bIlluminati

bIlluminati.....if you believe that clip is of use, email it to Berg and keep us posted. (I believe he’s covered the legalities of this case 100x over sideways)

bho better be prepared to leave the country if this goes down like it should. It will be one of the greatest con jobs of all time and at the expense of the entire democratic party. LMAO


24 posted on 10/19/2008 8:17:11 PM PDT by Doug TX
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To: ZULU
He should have filed the case in Montana and not Pennsylvania.

Don't forget PA is Hillary country!!!

25 posted on 10/19/2008 8:20:58 PM PDT by danamco
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To: bIlluminati

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

United States Code
Title 8 Aliens and Nationality
Chapter 12 - Immigration and Nationality
Subchapter III - Nationality and Naturalization
Article Part I - Nationality at Birth and Collective Naturalization
Section 1409 - Children Born Out of Wedlock

(c) Notwithstanding the provision of subsection (a) of this section, a person born, after December 23, 1952, outside the United States and out of wedlock shall be held to have acquired at birth the nationality status of his mother, if the mother had the nationality of the United States at the time of such person’s birth, and if the mother had previously been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year.

This was formerly in section 309 (as of the date of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.’s birth).

So Indonesian citizenshiip matters legally. However, Barack Hussein Obame, Jr.’s lying about his place of birth is not good politically, if the facts get out to the general voting public.


26 posted on 10/19/2008 8:22:44 PM PDT by bIlluminati (The kingdom of heaven is among us.)
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To: Doug TX

He’d have to come up with 425 million to pay back his donors.


27 posted on 10/19/2008 8:22:55 PM PDT by txhurl (holy cow - WE ARE OUT OF TIME)
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To: bIlluminati
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.’s marriage to Stanley Ann Dunham was invalid because he was already married. Therefore, Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.’s birth in Kenya is moot.

Do you have a valid source for that ???

28 posted on 10/19/2008 8:24:23 PM PDT by danamco
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To: NoobRep

ping please


29 posted on 10/19/2008 8:40:01 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: danamco

No, I don’t. I am not a lawyer, and so I’d want a lawyer versed in family and immigration law to sort this out.

The relevant part is that if a judge is looking at citizenship, he has to determine both the law and the facts. The law is clear enough: If Obama is not determined by the court as a bastard, then Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. If Obama is determined by the court as a bastard, then he is not, by U.S. law, a citizen of Kenya.

Then there is Indonesian citizenship to work out. Discovery is to get the facts that plaintiff and defendant want into the record. The judge can only rule on the facts that make it into the record.


30 posted on 10/19/2008 8:45:01 PM PDT by bIlluminati (The kingdom of heaven is among us.)
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To: RockyMtnMan

I needed an official birth certificate, original SSI card, fingerprints, and I don’t know what else, just to substitute teach, before they would hire me.


31 posted on 10/19/2008 9:07:03 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (What fresh hell is this?)
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To: bIlluminati

Obama wrote in his book about his fear to face his parent’s marital status.

This is depressing.


32 posted on 10/19/2008 9:13:58 PM PDT by txhurl (holy cow - WE ARE OUT OF TIME)
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To: bIlluminati

Correct me if I am wrong, but can’t Muslims have more than one wife?


33 posted on 10/19/2008 9:18:43 PM PDT by The Californian
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To: NoobRep

Please add me to your ping list too.


34 posted on 10/19/2008 9:36:17 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: TakeChargeBob
" I have never seen a full explanation as to what would happen if Zero is found to be ineligible "

We do know one thing for sure ... the Obama supporters will have riots all over America before or after the election.
35 posted on 10/19/2008 9:47:21 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: counterpunch

Some should have filed in Florida, Ohio, Virgina , Michigan, even California .


36 posted on 10/19/2008 9:59:25 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: txflake

Convoluted mess


37 posted on 10/19/2008 10:02:37 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

“We do know one thing for sure ... the Obama supporters will have riots all over America before or after the election.”

That would likely happen if Obama didn’t win - regardless.
The media would then of course blame it on the Republicans.


38 posted on 10/19/2008 10:04:21 PM PDT by TakeChargeBob
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To: bIlluminati
"However, Barack Hussein Obame, Jr.’s lying about his place of birth is not good politically,"

That's what I think this case is actually about. Some embarrassing fact (born in Kenya, when he said he wasn't, or Barack,Sr is not his dad......)

39 posted on 10/19/2008 10:04:25 PM PDT by cookcounty (CAC scandal: Obama and Ayers: Education DEformers in Chicago.)
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To: TakeChargeBob

What happens if there is no elected President even after Jan 20th ? ... what if this thing drags on ?


40 posted on 10/19/2008 10:04:55 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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