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Time for a Constitutional Amendment for Term Limits?
Self ^ | Sept 24, 2008 | Marie

Posted on 09/29/2008 10:16:14 PM PDT by Marie

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To: Marie
I've been advoating this for years now. It's unfathomable for me to believe that the President of the United States has term limits for the members of congress do not.

If I was running for President this would be one of the cornerstones of my campaign.

21 posted on 09/30/2008 4:54:37 AM PDT by pctech
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To: Captainpaintball

Lame duck congressman will have no reason not to buy favors for their future employment. Kind of like they do now. Term limits aren’t the answer. Electing decent people is the answer. Good luck finding some.


22 posted on 09/30/2008 5:25:26 AM PDT by psalm126 (Psalm126 For the Lord has done great things for us, And we are filled with joy!)
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To: goldstategop

The rest of the country requires protection from the likes of Barney Fwanks and his ilk.


23 posted on 09/30/2008 5:41:45 AM PDT by Rhino54
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To: Marie; goldstategop
"We need a Constitutional Amendment for Term Limits ASAP."

No, we don't want that.

Very bad idea.

24 posted on 09/30/2008 6:07:21 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Marie
"As the ultimate arbiter of how the Constitution is interpreted, the judiciary wields more actual power than the Constitution alludes to."

This is wrong.

I mean your idea is wrong.

Just because we are too stupid to know any better does not make the Supreme Court more powerful, it just means that we (collectively) are too stupid to recognize the mistake.

25 posted on 09/30/2008 6:11:51 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Marie; webboy45
"The second method prescribed is for a Constitutional Convention.."

And we ESPECIALLY don't want a Constitutional Convention!

Particularly not NOW, with all the stupid liberalism, Marxism, DEMOCRACY, and "moderates" in this country.

Just try to imagine what would be left of our Constitution and our rights after they all get a hold of it!

That is possibly the worst idea ever, and we should all fight ardently against it.

26 posted on 09/30/2008 6:18:40 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Marie
We need to limit the House to three two-year terms and the Senate to two six-year terms and end this madness

We need a number of amendments.

Term limits don't make my list. Term limits, like tax cuts, are an attempt to influence legislator behavior, and, like tax cuts, they don't work. Since we have a government of enumerated powers, why not just use the amendment process to directly attack the problem(s)?

For example: Amendment XXVIII: "No enumerated power of Congress may be delegated to the Executive or Judicial Branch by legislation. No Executive Agency shall make any regulation with the force of law, nor shall any Executive agency or Department conduct a hearing or investigation with the effect of a trial, or the result of nonjudicial penalty or punishment."

Amendment XXIX: "Congress may not impair the value of personal property by legislation without paying just compensation to the affected party or parties".

And so on.

27 posted on 09/30/2008 6:23:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When He rolls up His sleeves, He ain't just puttin' on the Ritz)
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To: Marie
Term Limits ain't going to happen.

The ones who make the laws are NOT going to cut their own throats.

The only way you are going to get term limits done is by a petition for a public vote in a general election specifying term limits for House and Senate representatives, so THE PEOPLE speak.

Depending on your CongressCritter to do it is doomed to fail.

28 posted on 09/30/2008 6:27:24 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Palin has run a state, city, and a business. NObama has only run his mouth.)
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To: FFranco
I am sure there are many more changes/clarifications that could be made to return America to our traditional rights and values.

Yes, I'm sure there are. With every bit the vigor and intensity that you and I might attempt to make the changes you suggest, the "other side" would be trying to make changes that "they" thought right.

A long time ago I learned not to ask important questions unless I knew what the answer was.

29 posted on 09/30/2008 6:31:33 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Man, that's stupid ... even by congressional standards.)
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To: Marie
Term limits come with their own dangers. Relatively "green" members rely too heavily on unelected, "career" employees of the House and Senate. I put the quotes around career because there are not supposed to be career people in the legislative branch but they do exist. They are very partisan people...on both sides...who drift from one member's office or committee staff to another. Some become more powerful than members and they are completely unaccountable for their actions.

Believe me, I know. I was one of them for seven years.

Any term limit proposal would have to deal with this or you end up with a cure that is worse than the disease.

30 posted on 09/30/2008 9:11:27 AM PDT by paddles
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To: paddles

Are you really sure that the cure could be worse than the disease? I don’t know what the answer is, but I’m becoming more and more inclined to believe that a diagnosis of careerpoliticianitis is more viral than the common cold, harder to get rid of than herpes, every bit as nauseating as food poisoning, as costly to live with as cancer treatment and every bit as much of a pain in my behind as a hemorrhoid! Gambling on the cure might just be worth it.


31 posted on 09/30/2008 8:48:35 PM PDT by MissyPrissy
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To: Designer; FFranco

A con-con would result in this:

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/concon/newstates.htm

And I ABSOLUTELY do not want the President to have the power to declare war or to have increased executive privilege. We are NOT a monarchy nor a dictatorship.


32 posted on 09/30/2008 9:07:27 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Pistolshot
"The only way you are going to get term limits done is by a petition for a public vote in a general election specifying term limits for House and Senate representatives, so THE PEOPLE speak."

First, you really don't want "term limits". We already have term limits; two years for Congressmen, 6 years for Senators. If you dont' like your Senator, elect someone else.

FYI: look at what has taken place re; the President for the past 4 years. GWB, whether you agree completely with his policies or not, has not had to answer to any polls for the past 4 years. Trust me on this one; you do NOT want "term limits" extended to our Congressmen and Senators.

And to hope to "depend" on your Congressman is a defeatist attitude to begin with. Rather, you should watch his every move and hold his feet to the fire.

33 posted on 10/01/2008 5:24:27 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: SecAmndmt
"A con-con would result in this:"

Wow! Thanks for the link.

34 posted on 10/01/2008 5:26:41 AM PDT by Designer (We are SO scrood!)
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To: Designer
You really didn't read ALL of my post, did you?

I said don't bet on it happening.

35 posted on 10/01/2008 5:27:45 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Palin has run a state, city, and a business. NObama has only run his mouth.)
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To: Marie

You have better chance of growing boobs on your back that getting a central government term limits amendment in. Spend your time and energy else where.


36 posted on 10/01/2008 5:28:28 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never mess with an old man, he will just kill you.)
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To: webboy45
Last thing I want in this me too world is a Constitutional Convention. Every nut job cause will have to be given space at the table and NONOE here will be happy with the results.
37 posted on 10/01/2008 5:30:53 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never mess with an old man, he will just kill you.)
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To: Marie

http://www.termlimits.org/

Thanks for the link!

It is time for Americans of all political persuasions to join forces to clean out the rats nest called DC. It is clear they won’t listen to the people under current conditions, so let’s give them something to ponder. Like a nationwide enthusiasm for term limiting the damage they can do.


38 posted on 01/15/2009 8:21:10 AM PST by stevestras
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To: Marie
There are already term limits. They're called "elections".

I believe voters should continue to choose their fate.

39 posted on 01/15/2009 8:24:21 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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