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Pimco's Gross says bailout to benefit Main Street: report
Rooters/YooHoo! ^ | Wednesday September 24, 11:41 am ET

Posted on 09/24/2008 10:36:33 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle

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To: RexBeach

Why don’t we just put Gross and Pimco in charge of the nation’s finances?

Gross is inseparable from Pimco, beholden to them and the positions he advocates are inseparable from those that would benefit his company financially.

Lately, he has been a primary cheerleader for Fed/Treasury schemes as they happen to coincide with his interests. A bailout, or even a proposal of one, results in B$ change in Gross’ personal and managed assets.

People really need to find a more objective commentator.


21 posted on 09/24/2008 11:52:47 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86
Well,...try this commentator:

Bernanke: Grave threat demands plan's passage

22 posted on 09/24/2008 12:09:59 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I don’t know that - thanks for the info!


23 posted on 09/24/2008 12:17:54 PM PDT by tropical
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I said commentator, not instigator.


24 posted on 09/24/2008 12:36:03 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: steve86

So you think Bernanke is an instigator?


25 posted on 09/24/2008 12:41:07 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Obviously the youngsters who came up with CDS have never been through a business cycle downturn -- or maybe companies used summer interns to come up with CDS. It turned out to be a gold mine. The market will never fail. Up! Up! What a deal!

These so called "youngsters" made millions in salary and bonuses for coming up with these derivatives and making them work. They could care less about a downturn. All they cared about is the money they took away from the casino table

26 posted on 09/24/2008 1:19:14 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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RE: "These so called "youngsters" made millions in salary and bonuses for coming up with these derivatives and making them work. They could care less about a downturn. All they cared about is the money they took away from the casino table"

No doubt about that! I recall numerous articles over the years reporting just that.

I just heard that the auto industry in getting $25 billion -- ditto their concern for America. They will likely be adding the billions to the billions already in China. We're living in a Monty Python movie except it ain't funny. Just a teeny tiny bit of sarcasm. :)

27 posted on 09/24/2008 1:30:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Co-instigator.


28 posted on 09/24/2008 1:35:21 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture™)
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To: Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well, his one and only timing call in the spring of 2000 has made him a god to far too many slaves to his newsletter!!!

If only he had as much insight as his slavish followers think he has, maybe he should have been like Paul Revere in warning the national audience of the dangers of Fannie & Freddie.

I don't know how many times I heard him repeat the phrase... "The full faith and credit of the United States government." He's just another government lover!!!

Although, lately, he's been very helpful in arguing the case for US to DRILL, BABY, DRILL!!!

By the way... What's ever happened to Ginnie Mae???

29 posted on 09/24/2008 1:55:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama... Just another lying Commonist Communutty Organizing thug from the south side of Chicago!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Don't know.....check thru this google list:

Ginnie Mae google search

30 posted on 09/24/2008 1:59:18 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No, no, no, that’s not what I meant! All three GSE’s (Government Sponored Enterprises) Fannie, Freddie and Ginnie are in the mortgage business with Ginnie even more closely tied to government gurarantees than the other two and suddenly now, nobody talks about Ginnie! What’s up with that???


31 posted on 09/24/2008 2:14:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama... Just another lying Commonist Communutty Organizing thug from the south side of Chicago!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

Well...not sure,...but maybe they didn’t screw the pooch like the other two did.


32 posted on 09/24/2008 2:54:53 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well maybe so, but I still wonder if it weren’t a case of “the Three Stooges!!!”


33 posted on 09/24/2008 3:34:54 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama... Just another lying Commonist Communutty Organizing thug from the south side of Chicago!!!)
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To: babble-on

“well, he’s right to point out one thing: this is not a gift, its a purchase of assets - at a discount to their original value.”

Bernanke outright said that he would like to purchase assets ABOVE market value. Call me a silly goose but purposely overpaying is equivalent to gifting.


34 posted on 09/24/2008 6:53:41 PM PDT by too_cool_for_skool
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To: too_cool_for_skool
Bernanke outright said that he would like to purchase assets ABOVE market value

And that is much less than the hold to maturity Market Value......

35 posted on 09/24/2008 7:24:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: too_cool_for_skool

the point is that market value is depressed below the hold to maturity value. The Treasury may make an impressive return on these assets in fact.


36 posted on 09/25/2008 4:46:35 AM PDT by babble-on
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