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5th Grader Suspended For Anti-Obama Shirt
My Fox Colorado ^ | Monday, 22 Sep 2008 | My Fox Colorado

Posted on 09/23/2008 9:47:33 AM PDT by Ultimatum

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To: jalisco555; gracesdad
I am not so sure that when it comes to political speech the courts would be so eager as you aver to uphold restrictions on speech.


21 posted on 09/23/2008 10:42:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
A standing O for the wise General Forrest.



(Although I'm sure there's bound to be some of the authoritarian statists that haunt FR that will say the kid broke the rules and should be punished.)
22 posted on 09/23/2008 10:47:55 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: jalisco555

See, nathanbedford, it didn’t take long for the authoritarian Rulebook Harrys to show up.

BTW, mjalisco555, just WHERE does it state in the Constitution of the United Stated of America that minors have no First Amendment right?


23 posted on 09/23/2008 10:50:44 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Zevonismymuse
Do you agree with my assertion that good people do not use their children for propaganda, even when the other side does it routinely?

Do you think that this behavior should be regulated by the state? "Good people" don't swear, tell off-color jokes, pick their nose in public, or wear unsightly clothing either. Should everything that "good people" don't do be "not allowed" by the state?

24 posted on 09/23/2008 10:52:33 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
But suspended for “willful disobedience and defiance”?

The way things are headed in public schools, a student will be suspended for "willful disobedience and defiance" for refusing the sexual advances of his teacher.

25 posted on 09/23/2008 10:56:49 AM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: dan1123
Do you think that this behavior should be regulated by the state?

Quite the contrary; I am saying that parents are responsible for the behavior of their minor children.

26 posted on 09/23/2008 11:03:26 AM PDT by Zevonismymuse
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To: Ultimatum

The school acted appropriately. The kids are having enough trouble learning what they need to learn. We don’t need to permit the additional distraction of dueling t-shirts.


27 posted on 09/23/2008 11:03:53 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: Zevonismymuse
I don't think kids should be allowed to be disruptive

I missed the part of the story where his wearing the shirt caused a riot so can you please explain to me how a shirt is disruptive?

28 posted on 09/23/2008 11:03:55 AM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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To: gracesdad

Dunno about that; depends how the Tinker Test is interpreted and by which court.


29 posted on 09/23/2008 11:04:45 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Ultimatum
They've got a poll up asking if the kid should've been suspended or not. Out of over 15,000 votes, 80% say he SHOULD NOT been suspended.

Hopefully, that's how many people will vote against NOBAMA!

VOTE NOW!!

30 posted on 09/23/2008 11:04:54 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
It would be like a police officer ordering you to let them into your house but they don’t have a warrent to show you.

If you refuse, they can’t charge you for defying them.

NO, they just barge past you, arrest you, murder you and kill your dogs and they seem to get away with it every time.

31 posted on 09/23/2008 11:06:42 AM PDT by SwankyC (Paris Hilton 08 - I'm voting for 2 small boobies instead of 2 huge boobs)
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To: RogerWilko

Get real. At the very least he should have been sent home for the day. School is no place for this type of shenanigans.


32 posted on 09/23/2008 11:08:36 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: RogerWilko

I distinctly recall that in 1985 in Read vs. Saddleback Valley Unified School District (Mission Viejo, CA), I was victorious (based on the famed “Bender” case) in my defense of the 1st Amendment rights of students to express their religious views.

There is precedence. The court decision supported that the rights of the students does not stop at the school house gates, the Constitution and its Amendments provide protections no matter how old you are, or where you are.


33 posted on 09/23/2008 11:10:45 AM PDT by Vercingetorixbc (Veni, Vedi, Butti - I came, I saw, I kicked butt)
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To: colorado tanker

I grew up in a small town in NE Ohio that was heavily Democratic. When I was in grade school back in 1968 and ‘72, most of the kids wore their Humphrey and then McGovern buttons and I dutifully wore my Nixon buttons and had Nixon stickers on my bookbag.

Of course there were some arguments.

This was a Catholic school mind you, but the nuns allowed this and in fact used it as a way to teach us about the issues of those campaigns and incorporated it into their lesson plans about how American elections worked in our great republic.

Fights? Yeah one or two. But those who started it got the unpleasant duty of raking all the leaves in the church cemetery the following Saturday.

Ahhhh.....the good old days.


34 posted on 09/23/2008 11:12:52 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: nathanbedford; jalisco555

My apologies, sir, I forgot to ping you to my response.


35 posted on 09/23/2008 11:16:40 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: rivercat

Oh please.

If it was a global warming, or anti-war, or McCain is Keating’s best friend on his shirt nothing would have happened and YOU know it.


36 posted on 09/23/2008 11:20:10 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.")
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To: Emperor Palpatine
If it was a global warming, or anti-war, or McCain is Keating’s best friend on his shirt nothing would have happened and YOU know it.

...and somehow, you think that that makes it alright?!?!

37 posted on 09/23/2008 11:24:23 AM PDT by rivercat (Sarah Palin '12)
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To: Zevonismymuse
I think I can agree to that. I know it might seem that I am flip-flopping on the issue, but I do not want to come across as meek and having no backbone like so many politicians are today.

Children should not be walking billboards is basically what it comes down to and I can agree with that.

38 posted on 09/23/2008 11:28:46 AM PDT by Ultimatum
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To: rivercat
Get real. At the very least he should have been sent home for the day. School is no place for this type of shenanigans

Sorry... My main complaint was that the t-shirt was sloppily done. He should've spent a little more time on it!

I bet a "Bush Knew" or "Bush is a terrorist" t-shirt would've went over just fine!

39 posted on 09/23/2008 11:32:12 AM PDT by RogerWilko
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Actually, the police never have to “show” the home-owner a warrant. The warrant is applied for at the local court of law in that jurisdiction - ever see the police get a warrant to go after drugs? They just boot the front-door of the house and go in..

If it was in fact a warantless search than that’ll have to wash out in a day at court against the offending police dept.


40 posted on 09/23/2008 11:40:54 AM PDT by WaveMan
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