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FOX business block- LIVE thread - Saturday 20 September
FOX NEWS ^ | 20 September 2008

Posted on 09/20/2008 7:03:53 AM PDT by SE Mom

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To: SE Mom
I hope to hell someone is watching what’s going into this bill.

Make sure the Offshore Drilling Prohibition has not found its way into this bill. RATS will not allow any bill to pass without getting that prohibition renewed. Expiration is only 10 days away!!
161 posted on 09/20/2008 9:12:09 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: AmericanMade1776
is how they try to include the panic to the middle class and the poor.

Right. Even Bush can't tell the story. Difficult times? Not to me. Nothing has changed here. These are extremely serious challenges but confined to the banking sector. It is a challenge not "difficult times" which makes it sound like all Americans are feeling some sort of depression, bread lines, etc

162 posted on 09/20/2008 9:12:29 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: Fox_Mulder77
And the Republicans are going to be too scared to stand in the way of the Democrats

As long as this fact remains, the GOP will NOT be able to regain Congress. Grow a spine for gods sake!!!
163 posted on 09/20/2008 9:21:21 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: bobsunshine
I wonder how much this contributed to the problem we are facing now.

My guess: zero.

164 posted on 09/20/2008 9:27:02 AM PDT by logician2u
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To: bobsunshine
Well, one thing that was left out is the media. For the last 6 months or more, all we’ve heard from CNBC, ABC, MSNBC, etc. is “we are in a recession ....most Americans think we are in a recession... this could be as worst at the Great Depression”.

Great point- the entire US Banking system depends on faith and belief that your deposits in a Federally chartered bank are 'Safe'. When the DNC Media drill us everyday on the lie that America is in a recession, then by god a recession is created when Americans stop buying and hunker down. Simply put - the media runs America and if they want a recession to help their DEM masters (remember the Iraq war was not lost which is what the Dems were counting on for election 2008) then their task is to trumpet the recession/depression mantra 24/7. Surprised when it actually arrives? As for banks - we have not seen the last of this crisis. Luckily people are not running out to the banks to get their deposits/savings like they did in the 1930s.
165 posted on 09/20/2008 9:32:26 AM PDT by Cheerio
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To: SE Mom
OMG- they want up to $11 TRILLION?

$11.3 trillion will be the new ceiling on the national debt. As of September 18, our national debt was $9,664,631,803,259.07. The current ceiling for the national debt had already gone up to $10.6 trillion.

The additional $700 billion would take the national debt ceiling to $11.3 trillion.

The story Rescue plan seeks $700B to buy bad mortgages has some more details.

166 posted on 09/20/2008 9:53:23 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: snowsislander

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167 posted on 09/20/2008 10:02:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ('GOP' : Get Our Petroleum)
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To: kjam22; AmericanMade1776; All
Ditto here in ChiTown.

Curious what others think would happen if a total credit freeze were to occur? That would mean no bank loans to small companies (to meet payroll, etc.) leading to layoffs. That is what the Feds are trying to avoid a total credit freeze.

Also, I guess these million dollar homes in a blue collar neighborhood might just not be worth a million dollars anymore???? (Can you imagine owing Mayor Daley $30,000 in property taxes EACH YEAR for as long as you own the home/mortgage?????)

168 posted on 09/20/2008 10:07:50 AM PDT by Chgogal (Voting "Present" 130 times might be a sign of a smart politician. It is not a sign of a good leader.)
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To: srmorton
Dave Ramsey is a Christian financial counselor. ...

He sounds like the one to fill the late Larry Burkett's shoes. Ramsey's ministry sounds a lot like the Crown Financial Ministries. Good for Fox News and Cavuto for including him.

169 posted on 09/20/2008 11:46:25 AM PDT by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: SE Mom

I find it amazing that so-called “conservatives” on FR are acting as cheerleaders for a $700 billion fleecing on the taxpayers.

I guess socialism with an “R” after it is just hunky-dory so long as it isn’t the socialism with a “D” after it.

(shakes head)


170 posted on 09/20/2008 6:19:53 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: KansasGirl

“Let’s put the $700 billion in perspective.”

Yes. Let’s.

This is a $700 BILLION wealth transfer from the public treasury to the incompetent nincompoops on Wall Street who started this mess in the first place. While we as taxpayers won’t have to make payments on this $700 BILLION this second, we as a country will have to pay for it eventually. Either through higher taxes, a dilution of the currency, or by passing it off to the next generation. Probably a combination of all of the above. And for what? So the markets can avoid a long overdue correction that is going to happen (gasp!) during an election year?

Socialism is socialism whether you put a Republican or Democrat brand of cheap perfume on it.


171 posted on 09/20/2008 6:26:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

“Any Freeper here hurt by these finanical institutions money woes?”

Nope. Yet I’m going to have to pay the bill for it.


172 posted on 09/20/2008 6:28:32 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: RKBA Democrat
I want the Goberrment to take over Exxon and make it a state run entity. Tough luck Exxon, it's a matter of National Security.

Why should we as taxpayers get stuck with all the losers? Take a winner why don't you? It can help offset the losses.

Everyone wins... ;)

173 posted on 09/20/2008 6:46:46 PM PDT by Afronaut (It's 1984)
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To: SE Mom
I sure wish I could get it. I have the web site up,but our cable company would rather run the Michael Moore channel, if there was one. They despise FOX and often let it go off air for hours at a time.

I have written to request it, but I get no response.

174 posted on 09/20/2008 7:14:25 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: Afronaut
I hate to bust anyones bubble, but AIG is a very solvent company. They are big and ponderous, but they are solvent and efficient enough.

What happened was a chain of events that brought the shorts into the trading frenzy, caused the stocks to dive, the rating agencies to demote, and the regulators to demand more cash in reserve while the credit market was frozen.

I bought some stock this week, as a matter of fact.

175 posted on 09/20/2008 7:19:11 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Lost 7K a few weeks ago.


176 posted on 09/20/2008 7:20:16 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Much of the 700B, and it may be more, will go to banks all over the country and globally who bought Fanny Mae securities in good faith,or CMO's based on mortgages and because of severe write downs, are now unable to loan money to anyone.

I have not even begun to list the numbers of things that the CMO's are used for collateral to fund. They also support the CDO's which number in the trillions of dollars, the building projects, the payroll loans and short term financing as well as lines of credit your employer may have.

This is not all wall street, and to be more to the point, it would not matter if it were, because it all will affect you directly in a very short time if not fended off now.

177 posted on 09/20/2008 7:29:05 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Well....................................That's .....that.........)
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To: SE Mom
ATTENTION EVERYONE:

You don't have much time to act regarding Paulson's Bailout Plan.

This plan, as it is written, will give Hank Paulson UNLIMITED & UNCHECKED FINANCIAL POWER OVER THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

That's right. President Bush won't be able to stop him; Nor Pelosi or Reid. He will be able to do as he pleases with NO OVERSIGHT! Do you really think this 700 BILLION number is all? That is a sanitized number so it won't scare the masses.

The true number is over a TRILLION and that's probably a floor - the ceiling could be upwards of double that...two TRILLION, or more? Let me write out just one billion (like a check) so you guys can truly appreciate this number.

$1,000,000,000,000

Why is there no outcry on FreeRepublic over this??! This is going to choke the next generations with impossible debt burden.

I see that many here are disturbed and you are complaining about it on these threads - but you must contact the people that can possibly save us from this nightmare bailout scheme RIGHT NOW!

You know, we FReepers fought hard on the immigration debacle and we WON. People here were hopping mad and weren't about to let The Gov't jam that stupid legislation down our throats!

Folks, this bailout scheme will harm our country immeasurably worse.

YOU MUST ACT NOW TO SAVE OUR COUNTRY! Get on the phones, and let your congresspeople and senators know that 'We The People' vehemently object to this financial coup that is about to take place.

CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOW! It might be too late by Monday morning - you should be calling them NOW - and tomorrow - yes Sunday! They are going to try and ram this through before the market opens on Monday. Call all of their offices. Leave messages. Talk to your family and friends and tell them to do the same.

178 posted on 09/20/2008 11:51:48 PM PDT by adm5 (WE HAVE TO STOP THE PAULSON BAILOUT SCHEME!)
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To: adm5

Knock off the spam.


179 posted on 09/21/2008 12:28:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Knock off the spam.

My bad. Just trying to help save our Country.

I'll stop posting it, so you and FR can save .11 cents on bandwidth. That's certainly more important.

180 posted on 09/21/2008 12:36:25 AM PDT by adm5 (WE HAVE TO STOP THE PAULSON BAILOUT SCHEME!)
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