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Hurricane Ike Live Thread IV
NOAA/NHC ^ | 14 September 2008 | NOAA/NHC

Posted on 09/12/2008 11:29:13 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: eastforker

Huffman has a downtown? ;-)

Glad you are all OK.


3,101 posted on 09/16/2008 10:59:38 AM PDT by TheMom (Hurricane Ike blew my tagline away.)
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To: txflake

It seems with this mayor there’s a lack of strong leadership. She has decided to do a Look n Leave for the indefinite future.

At the SAME time she said there’s a blossoming health crisis on the island. One reporter asked her to reconcile letting people on the island (with health crisis impending) Her answer to that was that it was a hard decision.

So now- between 6 AM and 6 PM every day- in the midst of NO water, NO sewage, NO power, limited access and egress with emergency workers trying to access the island on the same roads...it’s going to go from a bad dream to a damn nightmare.

It’s beyond bizarre the mayor and her advisors are allowing this. IF she had said, for example, ok- by Friday morning people who live on streets ABCDEF can come in from 6 to 6...Saturday GHIJK..etc...that would have given folks time to think, plan and prepare for doing this.

Logistics, logistics, logistics..


3,102 posted on 09/16/2008 11:03:57 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: SE Mom

Somebody posted a link on WU where you could view your property, no need to drive to it. I should have bookmarked it.

That article brought up the troubling math again, >20K riding it out, and ~4K rescued/found.

I was watching W carefully, he is very honest about body-languaging his assessment of any situation at his pressers.


3,103 posted on 09/16/2008 11:09:39 AM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: txflake

It was strange he didn’t do a press conf from Galveston- only from Houston.

What did you pick up from the president? I saw him for a second this morning- he looked exhausted.


3,104 posted on 09/16/2008 11:24:10 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: eastforker
Eastforker...to me that is just wrong. First can they make the people there leave? Yes they need to look at health issues but people not knowing if they can go back soon or even, ever is setting up a disaster for the next storm IMO. The mayor should be working with the home owners instead of considering them as people that will just get in the way. It's happened to me once and my students have reported the same thing...they come up on an accident and administer first aide , direct traffic etc and then when the professional arrive they are treated as ignorant and in the way. Rescues should be planned to work with the public instead of against them. Not all would, but most neighbors would probably be grateful to be close to home and have a volunteer”job” to do that would free rescuers up for more important things. We don't need police officers passing out ice off a truck. A volunteer could do that. Meals could be cooked by volunteers, etc. JAT
3,105 posted on 09/16/2008 11:28:00 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: SE Mom

He’s grim.

He probably won’t land in affected areas, just overfly them.
He has too much concern and decency to detract from the SAR effort by getting in front of a camera.


3,106 posted on 09/16/2008 11:30:22 AM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: CindyDawg

This is Bollivar, not galveston, the mayor has nothing to do with it. The only access to the peninsula is by personal watercraft or helicopter. The road and bridge is out as with the ferry landing. The point is, if they make everyone leave they can keep them from coming back where as if they stay they are completely on their own. If they make everyone leave it would be way to easy to condemn the peninsula for residence. It will take many millions if not more to rebuild the roads and infrastructure, the state may not want to do that. After Alicia wiped out route 87 from high island to port aurthur, the state never rebuilt it.


3,107 posted on 09/16/2008 11:42:12 AM PDT by eastforker (Dems Holler for your Dollars/Palin Hollers to Save you Dollars, OOOOH SARAHCUDA)
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To: txflake

http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=8492c47815c9a245

President takes tour of storm-devastated island

From staff reports
The Daily News
Published September 16, 2008

GALVESTON — President Bush landed Tuesday on the storm-devastated island to receive a briefing from city, state and federal officials about death and property damage caused by Hurricane Ike.

Marine One landed about 10 a.m. at the Galveston County Criminal Justice Center.

Along with Bush, Michael Leavitt, secretary of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, and Dave Paulison, administrator of Federal Emergency Management Agency, and immediately met with Galveston Mayor Lyda Ann Thomas and Texas Gov. Rick Perry.

Bush, who later took an aerial tour of the area, declined to issue a statement to the press or answer any questions while in Galveston.


3,108 posted on 09/16/2008 11:45:56 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: txflake

I just saw on the Texas channel something about, that I 10 will be closed from Martin to Garth in Baytown from 3-7 to repair lines. I remember where Garth is but not Martin .


3,109 posted on 09/16/2008 11:46:06 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: eastforker

Ok..thanks for straightening me out:’)


3,110 posted on 09/16/2008 11:49:54 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: eastforker

Ok..thanks for straightening me out:’)


3,111 posted on 09/16/2008 11:50:26 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: STARWISE
***FEMA: We Will Pay Your Hotel Expenses

Just heard on KLVI.com (streaming)...someone from the state just called. Stated that anyone with a Lone Star Card that approximately 60 to 70% of your monthly allotment will be loaded on top of your normal allotment NLT Saturday.

Lone Star Card, aka food stamps.

3,112 posted on 09/16/2008 11:52:50 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (Now is the time for all good men [and women] to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: OBXWanderer

When Dolly came in here they did the same thing upon request. It’s sounds crazy but what it is doing is providing for replacement of food in freezers/refrigerators that were lost due to no power.


3,113 posted on 09/16/2008 11:57:57 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: OBXWanderer; STARWISE
Addendum to post. That is anyone with a Lone Star Card with an address in or near the affected areas.

I would assume that if you have a Lubbock or El Paso address, one might not look for the added allotment.

3,114 posted on 09/16/2008 11:59:44 AM PDT by OBXWanderer (Now is the time for all good men [and women] to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: CindyDawg

Lone Star carders will have to buy more ready-to-eat food.


3,115 posted on 09/16/2008 12:02:40 PM PDT by txhurl (Denali/Bolton)
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To: All
Tiger roaming hurricane-ravaged streets in Texas
3,116 posted on 09/16/2008 12:05:12 PM PDT by LA Woman3 (Sarahcuda!!)
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To: txflake
That's true but some probably already do that anyway. Here, only a small % lost power long enough to have food spoil. Where yall are, the majority probably qualify so it wouldn't be productive to weed out the few that didn't I guess. Anyway..we were told it was to replace. That adds up.
3,117 posted on 09/16/2008 12:09:08 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: txflake
That's true but some probably already do that anyway. Here, only a small % lost power long enough to have food spoil. Where yall are, the majority probably qualify so it wouldn't be productive to weed out the few that didn't I guess. Anyway..we were told it was to replace. That adds up.
3,118 posted on 09/16/2008 12:09:19 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
It’s sounds crazy but what it is doing is providing for replacement of food in freezers/refrigerators that were lost due to no power.

I have no problem with this...seems a very efficient way to get help to the needy. As long as they keep talk of those 2k to 3k Visa Gift cards out of the scenario. When Perry was talking on Sunday, in Galveston, he mentioned "As long as we get treated the same as Louisiana"...well, those cards are what first came to my mind.

3,119 posted on 09/16/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by OBXWanderer (Now is the time for all good men [and women] to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Enosh

Enosh wrote:
“... debris to ride on till they get to the mainland.”

It should be noted that swimmers on the other side of a hurricane will be going in the opposite direction,
out to sea.

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That is very true and an important consideration. Thanks for pointing that out.

That said, I’ve been going over the post Ike aerial imagery, and have yet to find a debris field indicating failure other than very early in the storm’s passage.

The construction debris tends almost universally to indicate the structures failed while the wind was out of the SE. The big and little pieces show clear trails from the building out to the northwest.

There is considerable evidence that quite a bit of scouring took place in the opposite direction, but that’s all sand and oil slicks. The buildings failed before Ike made landfall, if the debris fields are any indication.


3,120 posted on 09/16/2008 12:11:36 PM PDT by jeffers
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