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Tattletale Pranks and Kindergarten Pursuits
12 September, 2008 | joanie-f

Posted on 09/11/2008 10:57:32 PM PDT by joanie-f

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To: Sun
sometimes we need to limit evil.

Neither you, nor Father Pavone, are limiting evil at this point. You won't admit it, or perhaps even recognize it, and neither will he, but you're empowering it.

241 posted on 09/13/2008 9:20:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: EternalVigilance

So are you with your unAmerican stand against federalism but you won’t admit it either.


242 posted on 09/13/2008 10:24:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: TigersEye

I stand fully for federalism. I just happen to know the difference between enumerated powers and unalienable rights. I also know what the word unalienable means.


243 posted on 09/13/2008 10:34:46 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: EternalVigilance

President Bush picked originalist judges for SCOTUS, as well as many good circuit court judges, which will help empower goodness, but you will never admit it.

We just need one more SCOTUS to overturn Roe, and at least we will be able to save many more babies.

If a building were on fire, and you could only save half the people, wouldn’t you do so, or would you let them all die?

Please pray before you cast your vote.


244 posted on 09/13/2008 10:43:33 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: EternalVigilance; All

Tell McCain how you feel about embryonic stem cell research:

John McCain 703-418-2008 and http://www.johnmccain.com/Contact/


245 posted on 09/13/2008 10:46:34 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I stand fully for federalism.

No you don't. You don't even have a clue.

246 posted on 09/13/2008 10:47:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: betty boop
Thank you oh so very much for your outstanding post, dearest sister in Christ!

"a sense of life beyond the physical and material, beyond mere personal existence. It is the sense of a common world that stretches before and beyond the self, of belonging to something greater than the self, that gives strength not only to community but to the individual as well." — Natan Sharanski, Defending Identity: Its Indispensable Role in Protecting Democracy, 2008.

Obama is absolutely seizing on this theme; it all sounds so very, very good and desirable. But what the people don't know — yet — is that HE would be the one who gets to define this "belonging to something greater than self"; and he would define it in such a way that it would not be OPTIONAL: It would be a case of "get on board, or else." With federal power to back it up.

So much for personal liberty.

Precisely so.

The difference is individuality.

Sharanski is speaking of the individual ("self") whereas Obama is speaking of the hive. Only the queen bee has an individual identity in the hive.

247 posted on 09/13/2008 10:51:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Sun

Seven of the nine sitting justices were put there by Republicans. At least eight of them are legal positivists, and don’t have a basic understanding of what the word “person” means. Sorry, but the promise of judges, especially from someone who has been the enemy of conservatives and conservatism for the last decade like Senator John McCain, just doesn’t wash.

The burning building analogy makes me sick. The so-called “leaders” of the pro-life movement have barricaded the doors, and they have no intention of saving anyone.

Their self-serving “strategy” of regulating abortion instead of standing for principle and demanding its end NOW, is the primary cause for its continuance. It’s time conservatives woke up to that fact.

I don’t have to pray about whether to stand for what is right. That’s already a given for anyone who has read and believed the Bible.


248 posted on 09/13/2008 11:02:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: TigersEye

Right. And you’re the possessor of all knowledge. Let me guess, you have a law degree.


249 posted on 09/13/2008 11:03:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: Sun

John McCain doesn’t listen to conservatives. I can’t believe that you’re so naive as to believe that he does. Ever.


250 posted on 09/13/2008 11:11:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: EternalVigilance
You, who know all about unalienable rights, who have a higher moral standing than anyone else, who knows the hearts and minds of every poster have exceeded all limits of ridiculousness with that statement.

I note here that you have refused to answer every direct question put to and have refused to acknowledge every statement made about the structure of our republic with either a confirmation or a denial. You position is untenable so you ignore every reasonable challenge to it and throw out the "I know what unalienable means" or "you aren't pro-life" nonsense in place of an intelligent reply.

251 posted on 09/13/2008 11:15:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: TigersEye

Do States have a right to alienate the God-given rights to life and liberty or not? Why can’t you just address this simple question? Or is personal insult all you’re capable of? You do have a law degree, don’t you?


252 posted on 09/13/2008 11:22:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: EternalVigilance

I did answer that question and after all the insults you have thrown around you have no ground to stand on with that accusation.


253 posted on 09/13/2008 11:34:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: TigersEye

I note the complete unresponsiveness of your post. You’re the one doing what you claim I’m doing.

Good night.


254 posted on 09/13/2008 11:35:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: EternalVigilance

The same unresponsiveness you show in all of your posts. You are a complete lightweight. Where is your law degree?


255 posted on 09/13/2008 11:36:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: TigersEye

Our Constitution doesn’t belong to the lawyers.

You call me a lightweight. That’s fine. But we’ll see who has the last word on this matter politically.

We’re changing the rules, and folks like you aren’t going to like it very much.


256 posted on 09/13/2008 11:42:24 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: Cicero; nmh; EternalVigilance; betty boop
The first thing we need to do is reverse Roe v. Wade. [...] an act of judicial tyranny that was basically unconstitutional.

The only reason that RvW still stands is that Congress wants it to stand. Congressional statesmen with an eye toward their duty, by the mere offense to the power of their office, would have knocked down that judicial tyranny the very year it was birthed. It is by their consent that Roe v Wade stands to defy them, Democrat and Republican alike.

Then we are back to the states. MOST states will be opposed to abortion on demand. A few—New York, California—may go the other way. Then we can fight the good fight on the state level.

I do not agree with you. Giving the power of Life to the states is every bit as unconstitutional as RvW is, and is a terrific foot in the door for euthanasia, and ever other sort of bastardization of that sort, which the court will then nationalize, and then here we go again.

One cannot ignore the plain words of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution, which specifically take Life beyond the reach of ALL branches of government, and lay it only in the hands of the Creator. Until that (Conservative) ideal is fully recognized and protected, there will be no end to the perversions that will occur, with 50 different states to use as legal testbeds.

It is not a matter for the federalists to resolve. It is beyond their right to claim. It is an unalienable right, one upon which our federal government is established, as a protector thereof, and without which, our sovereign government has no business to conduct, or moral right to stand.

257 posted on 09/14/2008 12:25:17 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1; All

If a RTL Act can’t get passed, neither will a HLA, which is much more complicated, requires alot more votes, and is much more time-consuming.

On principle, it also suggests we are accepting their premise that the US Constitution does not already acknowledge the God-given right to life-which I believe it does.

As we debate it, though, more babies die, and I have no doubts that O will ensure more innocent deaths for many years to come.

btw, Despite God’s desire that we be made perfect as He is perfect, He annointed imperfect leaders, as told throughout the Bible.


258 posted on 09/14/2008 3:32:33 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Are we talking adult stem cells or Embryonic stem cells?


259 posted on 09/14/2008 3:39:32 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: EternalVigilance
McCain wouldn't have picked Palin if he didn't...finally...listen to conservatives.

Something happened....

...EV, I appreciate & respect you, but God could be using Palin (& she's willing to be used) to hold a mirror to the world and to our government especially.

Who knows.......God may use her for a season....for 4 years...

...and on the world stage, we will see her little Trig grow & he will shine a light on all who were prevented from being born because they were potential 'Trigs'...

..we will see the baby born of her teenage daughter...(Lord willing)...

..and the world will see all the babies who were not allowed to be born, because it was inconvenient!

EV, it could bring repentance to our nation!!

260 posted on 09/14/2008 5:19:34 AM PDT by Guenevere
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