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12 September, 2008 | joanie-f

Posted on 09/11/2008 10:57:32 PM PDT by joanie-f

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To: SiliconValleyGuy

That’s easy. John McCain is beyond the pale.


221 posted on 09/13/2008 3:46:50 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: SiliconValleyGuy

An abortion position that negates America’s most fundamental premise, the premise that the Declaration says is the very reason for the existence of human government.

Opposition to attempts to protect marriage and the natural family.

Support for the global warming scam, which is nothing more nor less than a colossal international power grab.

Leadership in destroying our national sovereignty by opening our borders wide to tens of millions of illegal aliens and rewarding them for their invasion by giving them US citizenship.

The leader in gutting the First Amendment right to free political speech, using George Soros’ money to do it.

That’s John McCain, just for starters.

If he’s in any way acceptable, no matter how much he and others are now covering for the man, then there really aren’t any standards left. Nothing is beyond the pale.


222 posted on 09/13/2008 3:52:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: narses; TigersEye

Is it better to buy into a retirement plan not having any idea what it’s going to provide for you or should you examine it and ask friends for their opinion?

These people are politicians not golden angels. I want to know as much about them as I possibly can learn.

I know she’s attractive, dresses well and speaks very well. A quick thinker, I think she’s honest. She hunts and isn’t afraid of guns. Supports General Aviation and Special Needs children. Eats meat. Now where in there are you going to get any idea of how she would vote if we needed a tie breaker to get rid of the UN or close the borders for six months?

Discussions like this bring those answers closer to the surface.


223 posted on 09/13/2008 3:57:09 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: All

One last comment before I have to go for now:

I would ask every reader to note that the McCain supporters have now invariably made Barack Obama their standard. Not America’s principles. Not right. Not the Constitution.

They are failing to follow George Washington’s counsel to us all:

“Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God.”


224 posted on 09/13/2008 3:59:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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To: betty boop
[ The radical Left is well aware of this. They deplore it; for it “devolves” power away from “the federal authority,” which is now largely in the hands of ideological elites, back to the people. ]

Absolutely correct.. The left wants not only national power temporarilly but world power eventually.. Global power is what Marxism or Ssocialism is all about.. Always has been.. the only country left against it is the United States.. many democrats AND republicans are for globalism.. NOW..

225 posted on 09/13/2008 4:11:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: B4Ranch
Oh, OK. I missed your subtlety. I didn't go to Hahvahd but I'm pretty sure the federal Constitution requires all state laws, including constitutions, to stay within the bounds of the federal Constitution.

Article. IV.

Section. 2.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

Section. 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.

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Article. VI.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

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Amendment V

...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; ...

AMENDMENT XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Those are what seem to me to be relevant passages regarding the authority of the U.S. Constitution over state laws and constitutions. Bolding is mine of course.

226 posted on 09/13/2008 4:15:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: truthnotspin

>I know enough that we must think about the questions before we cast our votes.<

Those are the questions that the RNC and DNC doesn’t want discussed anywhere, especially not on an open forum.


227 posted on 09/13/2008 4:21:24 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: joanie-f
We are sympatico...!
228 posted on 09/13/2008 5:02:47 PM PDT by Guenevere
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To: EternalVigilance
The first thing you MUST do is establish the principles.

Establish the principles with whom? I know what I believe, which is what the Church teaches--and also the basic principles in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

But, sorry, it doesn't matter what you or I believe, unless it can be put into practice. That means persuading others, and it means electing others. Otherwise, you will find yourself arguing with the likes of David Souter or Barack Obama, and they'll pay no attention to you at all.

229 posted on 09/13/2008 6:31:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
I think the Right to Life Act needs to be enacted, too. If we ever get a prolife majority, I hope they will pass it, and I believe McCain will sign it.

I can readily predict that even with Republican majorities in both houses and a Republican president, The RTL Act will never reach the floor of the Senate, and it will be the Republicans that shoot it down.

...Just as they shot down Hunter's fence, and just like they are currently shooting down the off-shore drilling that the Conservatives in the House have stuck their necks out for...

Placing your faith in the Republican leadership is utter doom, and McCain is just the next Bakerite in ascendancy- Funny how that always works out, isn't it?

230 posted on 09/13/2008 7:18:47 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: hosepipe
Not true.. I live about 10 miles from her, Grasshopper.. Its you that don't know her.. [Palin]

Then I will cede the point. I will stand fast however, on the idea that you place far too much faith in a single person with no contacts inside the system. They will eat her alive with no one to watch her back. That is what is missing. and will be the difference between AK and DC... Friends on the inside, and the power to do what she needs to. Neither will be at her disposal as VP.

Time will tell... If we find her in the company of Hunter, Tancredo, and the like, once she hits DC, I will be a HAPPY guy... If she is welded to McCain and his cronies...

231 posted on 09/13/2008 7:35:50 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: B4Ranch
Here I was thinking I was the only one saying, “Look in the mirror first.”

I think that is our most critical job as Freepers- To hold our own to the truth, and to make certain that they are kept to a high standard. Without that high standard, we are no better than our opposition, and the OP's words apply in triplicate.

232 posted on 09/13/2008 7:49:31 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: TigersEye
Are you sure you have been reading this thread?

Oh, yes, indeed I have.

233 posted on 09/13/2008 7:50:24 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1
[ They will eat her alive with no one to watch her back. ]

So true.. I have been worried about that..
She'd be smart to hook up with Gingrich.. as a friend..
He knows everybody.. also Ann Coulter.. and Rush Limbaugh..

She will be in dangerous waters.. she'll need a bigger boat.. shes in the Hildebeasts waters..
(Jaws theme)..

234 posted on 09/13/2008 8:02:36 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
So far my sense of her is that she isn't shy at all about making new friends and very effective at creating loyal allies. She also seems to have a reputation of shooting sharks not shying away from them.

One of my first thoughts about this pick was that DC would swallow her up and maybe corrupt her even. The more I learn of her the less I worry about that.

235 posted on 09/13/2008 8:20:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (Buckhead of the Bikini-clad Barracuda)
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To: EternalVigilance

“she’s already shown that she shares his views concerning the false federalism that alienates unalienable rights.”

So does Justice Scalia, and he is pro-life.

But I do NOT believe that it’s acceptable to kill babies in some states, and not other states, but sometimes even pro-life people, like Scalia, seem to think it’s constitutional. Again, I disagree.

However, the fact that John McCain picked Sarah Palin, and the fact that he sees how people responded to his pro-life pick, I feel that McCain will pick pro-life judges.

Can you imagine what kind of judges Obama would pick, when he thinks it’s acceptable to allow BORN babies to die on a shelf after a botched abortion?


236 posted on 09/13/2008 8:45:20 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sarah Palin walked the walk, by having a child with Down Syndrome

“You’re making a pro-”choice” argument, not a pro-life one. Not killing your child is not praiseworthy. Where have we sunk to when not killing your child is considered to be proof that you’re pro-life?”

I’d say you’re playing word games here, Eternal Vigilance.


237 posted on 09/13/2008 8:49:46 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: roamer_1

Too many live in Egypt on Denial.


238 posted on 09/13/2008 8:50:33 PM PDT by B4Ranch ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you"--John Steinbeck)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Arguments over degrees of evil just don’t cut it.”

As Father Pavone, of Priests for Life said, sometimes we need to limit evil.

You could say all of us are a little bit “evil,” because we have all sinned.


239 posted on 09/13/2008 8:56:27 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Cicero; Maximum Scrunch; RKBA Democrat; Ron H.; EternalVigilance; CounterCounterCulture; ...
I would ask everyone to read this story from today, and think about it in the full context of this thread:

McCain, RNC Advertise Intent to Spend ‘Millions More’ on Stem Cell Research

(CNSNews.com) - Sen. John McCain’s Republican presidential campaign and the Republican National Committee released a radio ad yesterday advertising McCain’s intention to join with his “Congressional allies” in spending millions in additional tax dollars on stem cell research.

The language of the ad makes no distinction between research on adult stem cells or research on stem cells taken from human embryos that are destroyed in the process.

*snip*

240 posted on 09/13/2008 9:18:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Don't talk about God, Life, Liberty, Borders or the IRS, and you'll do fine in the McCain GOP)
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